Wednesday, July 17, 2013

SPLC Claims Derek Black Has Renounced White Nationalism, And Apparently He Telegraphed His Intentions Back In December 2012

In December 2012, Derek Black publicly declared that he was not a white supremacist, a neo-Nazi or a Klansman and does not hold such views. He also stated he doesn’t dislike anyone on account of their race, religion, or anything similar. The SPLC jumped all over it, insinuating that Derek was wavering in his commitment to the Cause.

It turns out that Derek may have been telegraphing his future intentions. In their Hatewatch blog, the Southern Poverty Law Center claims that Derek Black, the son of Stormfront webmaster Don Black, has actually renounced white nationalism. According to the gay Jew Mark Potok, Derek says that he has been through a gradual awakening process, and has also apologized for his past pro-White activism.

To buttress their case further, the SPLC includes a link to a four-page e-mail sent to the SPLC by Derek Black, triggered primarily by the SPLC's discussion of the December story:

Derek states that he has been gradually withdrawing from the white nationalist movement over a period of time, hasn't posted on Stormfront in 2013, and only posted on that forum once in 2012. This explains why Don Black eventually took over sole proprietorship of the now-defunct Don and Derek Black Radio Show. He says he did not attend the European
American Leadership Seminar in 2012. But then it gets disgusting as he begins using anti-racist terminology, first using the anti-racist term "people of color", and then asserting that whites are "privileged" because of the color of their skin. He gives no indication that he intends to become an anti-racist activist, and he still believes a healthy sense of identity and belonging is appropriate and necessary.

Here's the section where he sets up and spells out his specific objections to white nationalism:

White nationalism supports the premise that multiculturalism is a failure, and that politicians trapped in a multicultural status quo are oppressing white people in “their own country.” They typically blame the West’s movement toward inclusion on a conspiracy of Jewish power to promote multiculturalism at the expense of whites. White nationalists cite black-on-white crime statistics and the increasing prevalence of “nonwhite” cultures and values in western society, as well as the growing number of legal protections and employment opportunities that a “minority” status now affords. On the other hand, white nationalists consider white people in the US to be ostensibly the victims of an ongoing genocide brought about by immigration and miscegenation, and feel that when they try to speak up about it, they are subjected to a vicious double standard. They observe that Black Nationalism and Zionism are recognized as tolerable, but whites with a similar declaration are vilified as racists. When they attempt to claim an accomplishment or cultural. production for the white race that produced it, they are called racists. If they produced their own Malcolm X, the nation as a whole would regurgitate. Thus their own white leaders are victimizing white people -— the system has turned its formidable weapons against a white identity. Therefore they think that whites must oppose resistance to racism in order to guarantee the future of white people as a people. [Note that he capitalizes the B in Black but not the W in White.]

I now consider this belief system principally flawed. Most arguments that racial equity programs disadvantage whites who would otherwise be hired or accepted to academic programs mask underlying anxieties about the growth of non-white social status. It is impossible to argue rationally that in our society, with its overwhelming disparity between white power and that of everyone else, racial equity programs intended to affect the deep-rooted situation represent oppression of whites. More importantly, white nationalism’s staunch opposition to the gains in numbers and in influence of non-whites makes it a movement by nature committed to suppressing these people. The advancement of minorities in the US is not insignificant, but has not ended (let alone reversed) their circumstances. Particularly bizarre to me is the determination of Jewish social domination. Though there are plenty of powerful Jewish activist groups pursuing their chosen agendas, it is inaccurate and outrageous to talk about people of Jewish descent as “the enemy” of anyone, as it is essentializing a large group into a fairy tale antagonist. It has become clear to me that white nationalism is not a movement of positive identity or of asserting cultural values, but of constant antagonism at the betterment of other groups.

A white nationalist party can’t function without standing on these disparities between whites and other groups and essentially endorsing them. To say that white people have let the “minority agenda” go too far implies that the relatively insufficient gains they have made are oppressing us. There is no way to advocate for white nationalism but by arguing that minorities pose a threat to our supremacy. It is not enough to say it is opposition to assimilation when the proposed recourse is to expel, suppress, or marginalize these other groups. Advocating for white nationalism means that we are opposed to minority attempts to elevate themselves to a position equal to our own. It is an advocacy that I cannot support, having grown past my bubble, talked to the people I affected, read more widely, and realized the necessary impact my actions had on people I never wanted to harm.

First, multiculturalism is clearly a failure throughout most of the United States. Not only has it imposed continuous cultural revolution upon our society, but the rules of engagement are disparate. Whites are clearly subjected to higher and harsher standards on racial issues than other races. Look at how Paula Deen was mobbed and purged by corporate interests; when's the last time Jesse Jackson got the same treatment. If multiculturalism is such a smashing success, why do we have a large parasitical class of sensitivity trainers, life coaches, and therapists to help fix the damage? Furthermore, Derek Black damages his cause by spewing nonsense about "white privilege". The doctrine of white privilege is laying the intellectual foundation for white genocide.

Second, although Derek Black gets it part right on the Jewish Question, he ignores the fact that Jews not only dominate the media and the entertainment industry, but that these industries have degraded our culture. This cannot be viewed as a mere coincidence, particularly when over two-thirds of Jewish voters supported Barack Obama in 2008 and 2012. It is entirely appropriate to explore and uncover possible links between the two. We do have extremists who believe we should minimize or ignore Black crime to focus on the Jew, but more responsible and moderate people have emerged. Dr. David Duke focuses on Jewish supremacism rather than Jewish existence, and ANP Chairman Rocky Suhayda has said he prefers to focus primarily upon Jews who are taking active measures against us. Even the NSM downplays the Jewish Question at their rallies to focus on more mainstream bread-and-butter issues such as immigration and crime. But nobody other than Jared Taylor suggests that Jews be considered White.

Derek Black seems to be going the same direction as Lynx and Lamb Gaede, although there's no evidence that Don Black pushed him as relentlessly as April Gaede did with her girls for a time. It's too bad he is embracing some of this anti-racist terminology and doctrine, but this could be attributed to his attendance at New College of Florida, considered a hyperliberal campus.

Reaction: Stormfronters are expressing a guarded reaction. One person wrote "I never followed Derek. His renouncing White nationalism doesn't sway me anymore than hearing about April Gaede's kids does. If that is the path he wants to go down then fine. Not everyone thinks as we do and that is okay". Another person wrote "Two scenarios in my opinion...its a hoax, or there is a liberal girl with a tight grip on his heart. Either way, best of luck to him". A third person wrote "We need to support Don Black and his family through this very difficult period".

Occidental Dissent also picked up the story, and opinion there is much less charitable towards Derek Black. One person described Derek as a little pencil-necked jerk who telegraphed his traitorous intentions literally years ago, and characterized Derek's actions as odious and despicable. Hunter Wallace himself wrote "If he wanted to quit White Nationalism, he could have said nothing, and just moved on with his life. Instead, he did an Ian Jobling and sent this groveling letter to Mark Potok in which he embraces every crazy leftist idea like structural racism and apologizes for harming Jews by posting on an internet forum". Wallace, by his own admission, left white nationalism, but not for ideological reasons; it was the proliferation of unstable personalities that drove him away. Wallace has embraced Southern nationalism; his version is pro-White.


Anonymous said...

The hell with this pansy, and his huckster father, and the useless crowd at SF.

This fag apologizes for his "White Nationalism" - which was endless posts on the biggest pro-White forum out there, and blowing hot air on a net radio show. Jeez, what a loss for the cause.

Occidental Dissent is a ridiculous and divisive site. Ripped off HCs lame idea and put it in the South.

I guess Wallace really wants to turn Whites against each other by playing "North vs. South" here in the 21st Century. Maybe its time to put aside the civil war stuff and focus on WHITE AMERICA, rather than some regional interest group?

The WN Movement continues to screw around and go in circles......

Anonymous said...

Hypocritical for "Hunter Wallace" to say anything about Black, when he himself badmouths WN and covers up for Matthew Heimbachs sneaky little anti-WN and anti-NS comments.
Black probably has a mixed race girl or boyfriend.
Stormfront itself is a joke with all its political correctnes.

Anonymous said...

The movement is a total failure. Good for Derek leaving this shithole of a movement. Almost all of the people I knew in the movement have left as well. It isn't worth the time to waste in this garbage can of a "movement". You have soooo many rejects, criminals, dysfunctionals, and "niggers", in the movement that normal white people wont go near it. Then you have people like good old Rock preaching social justice, and egalitarianism. He is a white trash joke. If any of you have any sense you would leave the movement as fast as you can.

The Old Man said...

I admit I am not absolutely au fait with the situation on Stormfront, but the impression I always got was that Derek Black was never really "one of us" and like so many children of White Nationalists, like the Gaede girls, basically just along for the ride.

Wasn't there something a few years ago about how Derek wanted to be some big wheel in the Republican party in Florida and his Dad's bad rep was keeping him down, and he was whining about it all being so unfair.

Seems to me old man Don shared his mentor Double Diamond's impassioned lust to be part of the mainstream and wear The Suit, but at least Don had sense enough to realize it wasn't possible, that the Jews never forgive and never forget. I guess Derek never got the message.

I'm sure Derek thinks this stunt of his will get him all forgiven and squeaky clean and sanctifed so he can put on his suit and go out and be a good Republican. Don't work like that, kid.

Anonymous said...

Most white nationalists, if they are serious about their beliefs, will not ever forgive Derek Black. He's a traitor, and once a traitor always a traitor. I also think Derek has put a bulls-eye on his forehead. For once non-whites get wind of this, they'll know he's no longer protected by his father's public status and that he's "fair game" now. That means they'll now be negroe thugs looking to "make their bones" and who better than a white boy with red hair? As such, this whole tale could end very badly for Derek - as in literally in the morgue. And you know what? I don't think most WN's would care if one morning they woke and read about him being stabbed to death by some "yoofs". They'd just say "he had it coming."

And he does.

Michael Kennedy said...

It seems Derek has been exposed to Liberal propaganda, or perhaps is even feigning to renounce his views.

There is a good write up here

What is telling, is the lack of any explanation or evidence he came across to change his beliefs.

Anonymous said...

No surprise!

Anonymous said...

There is more to this story than has thus far come out. Then again, what else might there be that has yet to be said?

Well, one such possibility is the influence - and possible involvement - of that semi-mysterious individual in the background that most WN's still don't know much about - Chloe Black.

What many of us do know is that she willingly labors for the benefit and advancement of non-whites, via her South Florida job, and that right there is rather disturbing.

Might not this fact have finally come to register in young Derek's mind as...odd? Perhaps hypocritical? And, eventually, as perhaps validation that working with non-whites must not be so blasphemous after all, if the wife of one of America's most famous racial activists does it?

I would think so.

I would think that Derek, via his interactions at college with non-whites of various colors got him to thinking. Many probably acted reasonably civilized. Many (although perhaps atypical for their race) displayed clearly above-average intelligence. Could Derek have made these observations, then juxtaposed them with what he knew of his mother's work with racial minorities, and extruded from that a new paradigm of interaction with other Races - not unlike his mother?

Again, I suspect this to be the case.

In other words, his mother - inadvertently or not - demonstrated to him that it was indeed possible and even advantageous to peaceably work with non-whites and derive both satisfaction and a paycheck.

In short, the very seeds of Derek Black's internal ideological collapse is, rather ironically, probably due to his own mother.

Joe Buck

Michael Burks said...

Good for him. No he can live a healthy and normal life.

Anonymous said...

Good for Derek. The movement hasn't done shit in 50 years. Its not going to start either. Anybody with any sense would leave the fucking movement now. Matter of fact, to be a "movement", you have to be "moving". So by its very definition, its not even a "movement" at all.

Anonymous said...

The movement hasn't accomplished jack shit in 50 years. It is full of weirdoes, pedophiles, crooks, drug dealers, informants, murderers, white niggers, need I go on. This is why decent normal white folks don't have anything to do with it. I'm not talking about race traitors either. I mean people who are generally against inter-marriage for the most part, but just don't want to be associated with the BS, scandals, and drama of the movement. Can you blame them? I sure as hell don't, and neither does anybody I know. Best thing is if you have any sense, is to leave this shithole of a "movement", and fast.

The Old Man said...

Try "A Brief History of the White Nationalist Movement."

Folk Reich said...

@ "2:33"

I couldn't agree more with this statement.

My whole house believes in the CORE message of White Nationalism, keeping our blood line pure, etc etc.

However, nobody knows that.
Because we REFUSE to be associated with "The Movement".

In fact, my wife is rather infamous.

@ The Old Man

Thank you for that link. I've only read a small portion of it thus far but I like what I'm reading. Especially the statement regarding the improbability of TRUE National Socialism in America.

I feel this is unfortunately true.
If for no other (simple) reason than today's "American" who is white has it in their mind for some strange reason that this "Melting Pot" was intended for ALL colors.
And they cannot establish the "Homeland" mentality that could be relied upon at least by the Germanic people during past histories. The term "American" has embraced every color that gets the papers and calls themselves such.

Truly, sadly, what the MSM portrays as "White Power", is actually, what it is in America.

And that is something I want no part of. Like it was said, "white niggers", I may as well hang out with niggers and gang bangers/thugs of any other color.

I expect "My People" to maintain a higher level of discipline, morality, etc. And unfortunately I have been let down in ALMOST every instance by "White Power".

Stop the Genocide said...

First, He's probably afraid that he'll never be able to find a Job. 2nd: Just look at who he's writing to. The SPLC!. That's funny. The SPLC is racist within itself. They only represent so-called minorities. So, if 1,000 serious crimes are committed by blacks, the SPLC wouldn't care. NOT even if those crimes were committed against other blacks. There's only one subject which interests SPLC. ALso, look at who's running the SPLC. A bunch of Zionists who only want to further their own power structure by weakening the host nation. So, they launch Marxist-Style attacks against us. Finally, how does the SPLC explain their attempts to flood ALL Western nations and ONLY western nations with massive immigration? The evidence is clear. But, Derek's comments were only trying to explain White Advocacy in the USA, not worldwide. DUH!!!!

Folk Reich said...

@ "The Old Man"

After having now read

"A Brief History of the White Nationalist Movement"

I am even more convinced that the way my Family conducts itself the right way.

The last thing I want is my sons/daughters molested by freaks or to be informed upon to the FED's. Which, with that being said, GOOD LUCK! I'm a hard working man for my $ (which I'm able to do because I don't partake of "American NS" and it's Flag Bearers)and I give ZOG no reason to be able to harm me.

The (bowel)Movement (as I've heard/read it called) is an "American" failure.

MOST of the contributors to it will never succeed because they do not have the intellect nor capabilities to succeed. And those that do, I'm sure, fall into the hands of ZOG sooner rather than later.