Saturday, January 05, 2013

National Socialist Movement Planning A Rally In The Permian Basin Region Of Texas; Midland The Preferred Location

Although the National Socialist Movement has not yet published an official announcement of any prospective rallies in Texas as of this post, two media stories from KWES Channel 9 and the Odessa American indicate that the NSM is attempting to recruit Whites for a potential rally to be held sometime during this month in either Odessa, Midland, or Big Spring. The area is referred to as the Permian Basin. From these two stories, it appeared Odessa was the preferred location, but a later story from KOSA Channel 7 indicates the rally will take place outside of the Midland County Courthouse in Midland. Another story was aired December 28th by CBS7.

Local NSM activists have twice distributed flyers in Odessa which call for a national socialist government and blame third world and undocumented immigrants for crippling the U.S.'s economy, most recently during the weekend of December 29-30. Cited by both media outlets is Daniel Lawrence, the Texas unit leader of the NSM out of Tyler, who said that while the NSM promotes a pro-white agenda, it doesn't hate anyone. NSM members consider themselves color blind and open to all religions, although NSM membership is restricted to non-Jewish Whites (the rival American Nazi Party has a separate channel for non-White sympathizers). However, Lawrence confirmed that the NSM opposes homosexuality, and that NSM members generally believe that accounts of the Holocaust have been exaggerated (KWES reported that NSM members believe the Holocaust didn't happen, which is a distortion). In addition, along with ensuring White people have jobs, the NSM also promotes withdrawing from foreign wars and putting soldiers on the Texas-Mexico border and preserving white heritage

Specifically, Lawrence told KWES "I'm not racist towards any color of skin. If a man wants to make a living and feed his family and pay his taxes and keep his money that he's earned here in America, then I am all for that man." When asked how he responded to people calling him "crazy", Lawrence replied "All I can see is, if you really educate yourself, then you, yourself, can become enlightened, and once you become enlightened, it doesn't matter what people call you. It don't matter if they call you 'crazy' because you know the truth."

Lawrence told OA Online that although the term "Nazi" is factually accurate because it comes from the German words for national socialist, he considers it derogatory because it's been used as an epithet, and so he prefers the term "national socialist". Lawrence also stated that the local flyer distribution is part of a larger statewide initiative which includes flyer distribution in Dallas and south Texas. The NSM is interested in Odessa because of the increasing Hispanic population, much of which is believed to be in the country illegally. City-Data reveals that Odessa is 50.6 percent Hispanic, while Midland is only 37.6 percent Hispanic.

Lawrence also stated that the NSM's rate of growth in membership in the Midland-Odessa area has doubled over the past two years, attributing it to Barack Obama's policies on immigration and his recent re-election. The growth claims were indirectly verified by Una Voz Unida, which says that the Permian Basin has seen a gradual growth of these "types" of groups over the past couple of years. Contact information for NSM Texas is available HERE.

Police will keep an eye out, but not interfere so long as the NSM's activities are legal. Cpl. Sherrie Carruth of the Odessa Police Department said the group is not doing anything illegal by distributing the flyers, and no reports can even be made since there’s no violation of the law. One supportive comment was appended to the KOSA story:

Nsm Odessa January 5th 8:00 P.M:
we do not like to be referred to as "neo-nazis". we do look up to hitler, and we do love our symbols. but u will hear all that when we come to town in full force.

83 comments:

Anonymous said...

Anybody can get on the jew-news, just call them up and tell them that you are a neo-nutzi and willing to appear in full-dress costume and they'll be there within an hour, to give you your 15 seconds of fame. Of course, all you've managed to do really, is give White Nationalism another black eye, thanks we needed that. Paul Brannen

Anonymous said...

Why the need to reference the ANP and their "Non-White Division"??

When one goes to their "Non White" Page, and read, what you get is the following is a statement to the effect the ANP supports all races etc, etc, esentially the ANP has cloaned the Communist position regarding Race, Homosexuality, and economics. So the real question is what is the difference beteen Rocky's ANP and the American Communist Party of Gus Hall? Both have identical positions. Also, both Rocky's ANP and the late Hall's American Communist Party are both anti Christian, Rocky publically says he does not talk about religion, but in his private meetings with his 12 members he trashes it just like Gus Hall used too. Rocky also has the same fetish with Unions and Occupy Wall Street as the Commuists do. Translation Rocky is a Red right down to his pink g-string. In the last 2 years he has cuddled up to every Marxist-Communist constituient, i.e. Homosexuals, Jews, Non-Whites, now he has a open Non-White Division, his economics are right out of the Communist Manifesto and he goes to gret lengths to trash Whites. Rocky's "ANP", which is NOT Rockwell's ANP does not have a single core principle in common with real National Socialism.

Anchorage Activist said...

Anonymous 9:41 A.M: -- Your question is legitimate in my opinion, and here is the answer:

(1). By referring to the ANP in a post about the NSM, I illustrate the growing strength of the national socialist movement as a whole in the U.S.

(2). By referring to the ANP, I also illustrate the political diversity that exists within the national socialist community.

(3). Readers unfamiliar with national socialism and/or this blog need to know that there is more than one active NS organization in the United States.

Anonymous said...

Call for a "National Socialist Government?"

How about first we get a REAL National Socialist org that actually understands and promotes NS? With leaders that are worth following and are not race mixers, costume fetishists, convicted criminals, leftist union supporters or con artists who water down the message? We dont have anything like that in the USA right now, that's for sure!

Anonymous said...

"AA" #1 The "growing strength of the NS movement"? Lets get REAL for a change, the NS as well as the WN movement is WEAKER than at any time in my 45 year involvement in it. We can keep saying otherwise, kinda like "nsm" keeps trumpeting that "they're the worlds biggest White organization, with God knows how many chapters and members". Thier saying it doesn't make it true. The NS/WN community better get SERIOUS with new strategies and tactics, because its DYING a terminal death. #2 The "nsm" is NOT a National Socialist organization, based on Mein Kampf - they call themselves a "CIVIL RIGHTS" group. Is THAT NS? Months back, when OPP "outed" Jeff Schoep as being a RACE-MIXER - you yourself stated that if true - SCHOEP MUST GO. Well, its TRUE. A NS org does NOT have a race-mixer as its leader, nor as its Chief of Staff, etc et al. #3 I reiterate, there is ONLY one NS organization left in America, based upon what I wrote in Point Two, the ANP - slapping on a Swastika on a "biker" or a "bonehead" doesn't make him a NS - Schoep/nsm are RIGHTWING, REACTIONARY "racists" (when it suites their purposes, apparantly NOT in their lifestyles) to GET ATTENTION. 9:41AM is typical, he HATES ALL non-Whites whether he knows them or not, same with "jews". He obviously FEARS limpwristed "homosexuals" as well. The ANP has NO "non-White division", we have a "SYMPATHISER" section where arabs, orientals and "others" who understand and respect NS, actually $upport our agenda but have ZERO involvement in our organization itself. As for OWS, the huge majority across America who took part were not "communists" - they were fed up, normal White people. Were WE to ignore their anger, per USUAL by the dwindling reactionaries? No, we didn't and we won't. For White Worker Power! Rocky J Suhayda, Chairman www.ANP14.com 88!

Anonymous said...

The ANP is America's only NS organization. Quality leadership and a solid understanding of NS principles.

Anonymous said...

More ado about nothing.

Anonymous said...

I agree. The NSM misrepresents the NS idea. They are nothing more than a street gang and Schoep is the gang leader.

Anonymous said...

Wouldn't the White Nationalist Movement be much better off, if all these costumed klanners and neo-nazi's quit making a farce of themselves? If you want to be a National Socialist, fine, just do it as the National Alliance did it. Act and look professional and normal, not like some rejects out looking for attention. You want to talk about watering down the message? National Socialists are REVOLUTIONARIES, not civil rights advocates. Schoep and the NSM appear to be ashamed of National Socialism, whereas we ought to be ashamed of them. Heil Hitler!

Anonymous said...

A REAL NATIONAL SOCIALIST CALLS OUT ROCKY.....
Rocky, I will agree with you, the NSM is NOT a National Socialist entity based on Mein Kampf, BUT neither is the ANP. In fact the ANP is much closer to the American Communist Party with your fettish with Trade Unionism, a Communist tool and tactic. Also, Rocky, you are dead wrong about OWS, the vast majority of White constituents of true National Socialist thinking opposed OWS, the Whites that supported OWS were Marxists, Communists, Egalitartians, Leftists. In fact many were overt Communist. BUT Rocky it should be noted that YOU and the ANP NEVER attended a single public OWS event, your support was from cyberspace only, like all your work, comes from the closet.

On the issue of Race Rocky, your position regarding Non-Whites, Homosexuals, and use of code words, such as "mindless haters", is identical to the Left and specifically the ARA. Much of whacate Rocky borders on Marxist Egalitarianism. Your post at 5:40AM attempts to play word games, you say you have a "Non-White Sympathizer Section" how is that different from a Division? Do you take money from these Non-Whites? You also seem to say you cherry pick which Non-Whites, specifically you say Arabs, Orientals, and "others" can associate with the ANP. Interesting you hold this position while attacking Mr. Schoep for his prior marriage to a woman who is part Arab, but you have a "Section" for Arabs?? I might also ask, do Jews count in the "others" Of course, because you speak so highly of "working class Jews" and you have Jews as Official Supporters and Members as well as Homosexuals in the ANP. Your problem Rocky is one of credibility, you modify those "standards" you speak of whenever you think they need to be for the benifit of those $10 or $20 Pledges which you so aggressivley pursue. Rocky, the result has been, you will take anything as long as they/it will greese your pockets, in your world Rocky anyone or anything can wear your,, ANP swatika, and your "ANP Swastika" is NOT Rockwell's or Hitler's, and anyone or anything can wear your "ANP Swastika" as long as they send you money which is very Jewish. By the way, your rants about costume clowns is hypocritical given we have all seen the pictures from Bowles hacked emails with the ANP Members in NSM-Like Costumes. Rocky, you are a cross between a Wannbe and Neverwas. You have had your mindless minions fake membership in other Groups to troll and lie, like the SPLC and ADL does, you gossip and lie like a maid at the market and you talk about the "White Worker" while living off the Disability Benifits you receive for your 2 kids as well as the "Pledges" you fleece from the few mindless Lefties who play Naaazii with you 2 times a year in the closet. You are one of many who need to go away so a real Movement can be developed.

Anonymous said...

A REAL NATIONAL SOCIALIST PRAISES ROCKY

Rocky Suhayda is the real deal National Socialist in America. Rocky has never race-mixed and isn't afraid to try new tactics in the political arena.

Anonymous said...

4:40 really hit the nail on the head. He can cry about Jeff Scheop all he wants, it doesn't change him into a magical prince. I don't really have an opinion on Scheop except that apparently he knows more about what he is doing than Rocky. Rocky sounds like what an anti would if they decided to troll a pro white forum. He is as easy to see through as polished glass. What is sad is that Rocky doesn't seem to realize it. He talks about the movement being weaker than it has been in 45 years? How the hell would be know? He isn't allowed and certainly not invited to any events, get together a or rallies. The ANP has halted all of their public events due to embarrassingly low turn outs. I guess in Rocky's head, that means the movement is weak, not the fact that anyone willing to do a little digging knows he's full of it and nowhere near the real thing. He has scraped up a few folks from the homosexual crowd and from kids coming right out of highshool who haven't yet had the chance to hear about him and Taylor. Some say Taylor is an old pervert for trying to surround himself with teenagers. I think the real reason is that those are the only ones who haven't been around long enough to be warned about him and Rocky. Lets just all hope that it only costs them a few sheckles for a lesson learned.

Michigan said...

Why don't the two compete with activism instead of internet pissing contests? I'll say it again, I am yet to see the ANP's influence in Michigan. ANP supposedly is in Westland and the NSM is in Detroit and all I've ever seen was NSM active. I think both Mr. Suhayda (sounds Japanese! lol Sorry bro, had to say it.) and Mr. Schoep are both on the wrong path. Silly punks arguing about which NS group is legitimate as if that is even possible. This is America, not Germany of the 1930's, the issues are different and there will always be different interpretations of National Socialism. However, this struggle isn't a political one. You payyy-pulll keep trying to sum of the worthy cause of survival of the White Race into a political one and not a religious one, which it really is. You can keep putting out fliers tackling certain issues, but you need to understand that when it comes to "changing" people's beliefs, truth is you can't! Beliefs are built upon beliefs going up like a spiral and are mainly changed when pain and suffering is endured, one reason being why evil evil evil Right Wing "extremist" groups come to power in "terrible ecomonic conditions". Besides that, you can put out thousands of "Love Your Race" and other fliers addressing just one social issue, but unless you change the central morality and life philosophy of the White Race you will never have any success. The biggest battle is straightening out our people's confused and befuddled thinking. Not trying to gain votes to become part of a political structure of which you will never be part of. This system is evil and needs to die. Our people need a revolution of values that they hold dear via religion.

Knock out the main belief and the other side-beliefs will not be there.

Promote the Golden Rule of: What is good for the White Race is the Highest Virtue and what is Bad for the White Race is the Ultimate Sin. We got a big task ahead of us, but we will win, you know it. We are right.

Anonymous said...

A REAL NATIONAL SOCIALIST SPEAKS OUT...I see little difference between the ANP and the NSM both have severe quality control issues and lack what would be real National Socialist foundation and leadership. The NSM, at least, makes an attempt at engaging the public, something the ANP will never do and can't, because the ANP is infested with Lefties, Homosexuals and Cowards who play Naaazii and who whine and and play victim like Communists, Niggers and Jews. ANP members would poo their panties at first sight of a hostile group of harsh looking niggers confronting them at a public demonstration and Rocky would swear he was never a Nazi. The NSM has been plagued with sex offenders, drug addicts, and criminal elements, why? because they take anything and have had active "Prison Outreach" Programs and declare any crud in the Big House as a "Political Prisoner", Let's be clear, a piece of crap, whether White or otherwise that molests a child, beats his wife, or is a repeat drug addict and worse, a drug dealer, is NOT a "Political Prisoner" and is NOT compatible with real National Socialism. NOR is a crud that fails in his parental or marriage responsibilities, this too is not compatible with National Socialism. The NSM's failure to understand this is what makes them little more than just another street gang. Mr. Schoep has failed, several times over and his excuses lack credibility. He has accused his former wife (1st) of all sorts of horrible acts, yet he left his numerous children in her care, thus she must have been good enough to care for HIS children OR he cared not for his children OR he cared more for his short term sexual urges which were so short term that he did not fully look into the Aryan history of his next spouse (2nd, whom he also left, not because of her Non-Aryan blood, but because of his lack of sexual self control. His claim of ignorance regarding his 2nd wife's ethnicity matter also lacks credibility as much as Rocky Suhayda's claim of being in Rockwell's "ANP", even though the chronology proves otherwise.
The main problem with BOTH the ANP and the NSM is they are business entities, i.e. money makers for their respective very flawed leaders who say just enough and do just enough to keep just enough loyal followers sending in "Dues" or "Pledges" to keep them from having to have to obtain real employment. When one looks seriously into what BOTH the NSM and ANP says and advocates, what one finds is nothing remotely close to real National Socialism and no one should expect to find it, the NSM is a front to funnel customers into Mr. Schoep's Record business, which is why he found himself in hot water with the IRS a few years ago for comingling the two and the ANP simply copies things from other web sites, from the Socialists, the Communists, and from Wkipedia.

------------------------------------- said...

4:40 PM you are dead wrong! I attended two OWS events. One in Redlands, Ca., one in Fontana, Ca. Both were put on by the Occupy the Inland Empire. Inland Empire is a name given to San Bernardino and Riverside Counties.

There were definitely some communists present, I won't deny that. But most were just ordinary people who are fed up with the current system. I mentioned attending these events several times on my blog.

Also for those who criticize both the ANP and the NSM for requiring pledges I will point out that before the NSDAP achieved real power,they required dues of six Deutsche Marks per month from it's members. A lot cheaper than a $10.00 pledge, but inflation hits everyone.

Dan Schruender
West Coast Organizer
American Nazi Party

Anchorage Activist said...

Dan -- What some people don't realize is that if even if one doesn't join a dues-paying organization, one will still spend their own money on lone-wolf activism. It takes money to design, print, and distribute flyers.

The advantage to joining a dues-based organization is that, in exchange for those dues, much of those tasks are already accomplished. Both the NSM and the ANP provide libraries of distribution-ready flyers.

Anonymous said...

A REAL NATIONAL SOCIALIST ADDRESSES Dan S. & A.A. Re: "Dues" and OWS

Gentelemen, you cannot even begin to compare the NSDAP to either the ANP and the NSM with regard to "Dues" and "Pledges" The NSDAP supported its Members and used its revenues to enage in a strategy that led to real objectives. The ANP of Rocky Suyaha, not to be confused with Commander Rockwell and the NSM does no such thing and instead uses the "Dues" and "Pledges" to support their "HQ to use Dan S. own statements. As to the Flyers that A.A. writes about there is little cost there and in fact neither the ANP nor the NSM provides any degree of accountability and purges any Member who seeks such. The fact is the ANP's HQ is located in the basement of Mr. Suyahda's home, which he inherited from his mother and the NSM's HQ is Mr. Schoep's residence, thus both Entity's "Dues" and "Pledges" go toward paying the household expense of their respective "Leader".

As to OWS, the vent that Dan S speaks of is highlighted in numerous media reports nd on Youtibe, its focus was solely Leftist-Marxist and there was no official ANP presence at tht event. It seems that Dan S., if he did appear there did so, as is typical of all ANP events, in the closet or via cyberspace. Let's be clear, the main problem with the so called "Movement" today is everyone wants to be a Leader in order to mine Members, and each Group must fight eachother for "Dues" and "Pledge" payers because the leaders are so bad they have no ability to hold down gainful employment, thus the Movement-Group-Infrighting will always be. There is no desire to put a Cause above personal profit, thus the desire for Capitalism has corrupted the desire for a real Goal. By the way, NO one and NO Group has come up with a realistic Goal, Objective and plan to reach either. The ANP's rhetoric about "Lobbyists" and using the corrupt political system is designed to allow for slobs to say they are doing something by banging away at the computer and paying Rocky to play Naazii twice per year and he even lets them dress up while attacking the NSM and others for doing the same.

Anonymous said...

How about we for one, stop using the swastika? Hitler stopped using the Emperial flag because it was slandered and "drug through the dirt" his words in "Mein Kampf". He created a new flag; one that was pure and not seen yet in the eyes of the Germanic people. So how about we start there? Then we stop using the racist card, because that's going nowhere. Wonder why nobody is getting too far in their movements? It's because you're beating a dead horse with the same crap everytime you turn around. So finally, I say to you, try something nobody has tried yet and see where it lands you, like Nationalism: http://americannationalists.weebly.com/ I bet nobody here has seen the flag before and if you have, I bet very few of you really understand what it truly means. Do something different and try something this country has not seen before and I bet you will come out on top. The swastika has been drug through the dirt and not a soul can do anything about it to make it sacred again. Too many people keep it down in the dirt to give it a big comeback, therefore, sadly, it needs to go, otherwise, you'll be seen as nothing but a skinhead, racist freak trying to be noticed by the media.

Anonymous said...

This sat. the American Nazi Party will resume its Talk-Shoe radio show. Chairman Rocky Suhayda, who has had 45 years of involvement in the National Socialist movement, will talk about why he feels that NS/WN is at its lowest point since WWII, and what needs to be done about it. We invite all of our detractors to call in and take part, in a civil discussion on this topic. We especially invite Jeff Schoep to call in and debate Chairman Suhayda, as this would be a perfect opportunity to do so. ANP Staff www.ANP14.com 88!

Anonymous said...

A REAL NATIONAL SOCIALIST DEBUNKS THE ANP TALKSHOE CHALLENGE..

The ANP talkshoe Program is silly. Why would Mr. Schoep call into a Program and "Debate" Mr. Suhayda in a venue that is controlled by Suhayda's Leftits? Of course when Mr. Schoep does not, Rocky and his minions will claim cowardice on the part of Schoep.

Of course the entire premise of the "challenge" is artificial. Neither Schoep nor Suhayda are real National Socialists. What would be interestings would be a real debate on National Socialist Principals between Messers Schoep, Suhayda and a Real National Socialist in a neutral venue. Having just Schoep and Suhayda "debate" would devolve into a high school like shouting match over whose little dress up Naaazii group is better with Rocky still claiming, falsly, to be the successor to Rockwell, when we all know we changed the name of his Group from the European American Heritage Association to the ANP in the early 1990's. The fact is Suhayda's bastadization of National Socialist symbols and name with Marxist-Leftist-Trade-Unionist Ideology is as wrong as Mr. Schopes is with his attempted merger of capitalism with National Socialism. Neither Schoep nor Suhayda have any depth as to National Socialist economics, cultural, social and above all racial policies. National Socialist Racial and Cultural Policies have been completely ignored by Suhayda with his "Don't Ask/Don't tell Policy, i.e. acceptance of Homosexuality, in fcat Mr. Suhayda has in statements said "he is not afraid of a flaming homosexual coming at him with an errection", perhaps this is why ANP meetings are closeted. As to Race, Mr. Suhayda has praised Jews and attacked Aryans while using the languange of our enemies, terms suchs as "mindelss haters", this is a common term used by Marxist MultiCulturalits in labeling anyone who opposes White Racial Prservation. I might ask, if Non Whites and Homosexuals and Jews are welcome to partcipate in the Movemnet, then what purpose is there in having a Movemenet? It is and always has been a common tactic of the Jew to infiltrate any and all group so as to destroy Groups and Movements that do not perpetuate the Jewish Agenda, yet Mr. Suhayda and his ANP has praised "working Class Jews", please find me a a "working class Jew" that will, in the end, find solidarity with Working Class Whites over his/her Tribe?
To his crdit, Mr. Schoep has engged in external debate, Suhayda will never do so, i.e. leave his basement or closeted comfort zone and engage in a real debate.

Anonymous said...

A REAL NATIONAL SOCIALIST PROPOSES SOME SOLUTIONS...

One of the main issues with the "Movement" is that there is NO "Movement". The term "Movement" means progress toward a set of common goals and objectives as well as the ability to sacrifice one's personal status and rewards in favor of the whole, we should be working toward the advancement and promotion of fellow Aryans.

To this end, what has commonly been referred to as the "Movement" has lacked a cohesive Message and Goals and Objectives. We need realistic Goals and Objectives with Core Principals and not be swayed by our enemies and calls for "moderation", or "inclusiveness" or "change with the times". All of these are the tools of egalitarian multi-culuralists and have successfully used to erode the foundations of White Christian Civilization. So called White Nationalists and National Socialists (the ANP) that have decided that including Non White, Homosexuals, Jews, etc. are wrong and may well be false fronts. Perhaps their pursuit of more "Dues" and "Pledges" have caused them to lose sight of what made Aryans great.

What has been commonly referred to as the "Movement" lacks broad based composition and lacks appeal and in fact scares off the very Aryans we really and truly need, i.e. White Working Class Church-Going Families. The NSM is a prime example of this. The NSM has looked to prisons in the recruitment efforts and we have seen the result, their members have been in the news for sex crimes vs. children and women, domestic violence, drug crimes, as repeat addicts and as dealers and their members have been in the news for crimes as pseudo terrorists, i.e. stupid bombers. No Aryan with any use to his/her Race and with any talent can do any good in prison and none of these crimes are political. There is no ongoing "war of Liberation", nor does any member of the NSM or ANP have the character to engage in one. Neither the ANP, with its Marxist-Leftist whiners or the NSM with its street gang thugs with their foul language can attract broad appeal required to build a real "Movement".

What is required is an honest inventory by anyone who believes they are either a National Socialist or Nationalist. Anyone who self-identifies as such must ask themselves if everything they say and do advances the cause and provides for a positive example of Aryans? Can the NSM honestly say that Mr. Schoep's conduct with regard to his lack of sexual self-control and his preference to pursue that endeavor instead of his duties as a father is a positive example of BOTH a Aryan and National Socialism? Can any member of the ANP truly believe that Mr. Suhayda's flip-flopping of positions in the pursuit of funds, the constant attacking of Aryans, his embracing of Homosexuality and Non-Whites is a positive example of National Socialism? Of course not, BUT the composition of these two Groups will argue against this because they are representative of these two very flawed and superficial individuals who cannot be called "Leaders".

Our Race is in danger, there is no time any longer for these types of Naaazii's whose only objective is having a self-appointed Title and using ear-tickling language to keep their few remaining followers fighting with the members of the other group in hopes of attracting a few more "Dues" or "Pledge" payers.

Interestingly, very few self-proclaimed National Socialists and Nationalists are married (only once), are faithful to their spouse, have white children and care for them, are gainfully employed, have an education beyond 8th grade, are well spoken and can have a conversation absent profanities, are drug free, have no criminal records, know what real National Socialism/Nationalism is, and do not lie about who they are and where they came from. These are the Aryans we need to build a real Movement as within these Aryans, the Movement will pass from one generation to another.

Anonymous said...

A REAL NATIONAL SOCIALIST PROPOSES SOME SOLUTIONS...(CONTINUES)
Finally, one issue that may never be able to be overcome in American National Socialism/Nationalism is the concept that while many, if not most American National Socialists/Nationalists will criticize democracy for all its flaws, these same individuals will walk away and from their respective Groups and start screaming about their Rights and Voting when they have the slightest minor disagreement. The fact is, most self-proclaimed American National Socialists/Nationalists are in reality screaming Libertarians and have no concept of the Leadership Principal (Fuhrer Principe) that is the fundamental basis of National Socialism. This is why we must choose our Leaders wisely and why Messer’s Schoep and Suyahda fail, as do the likes of Roper, Duke and others. One must be able to articulate the Vision, Fight for it and then carry it out, once we win... and believe we will win, none of these individuals believe we will win nor want to, they are making too much money off the problem.

adam forbes said...

Anp needs to put up or shut up. Nsm needs to own up or shut up. Plain as that. Simple. Put the bullshit to bed. White Unity! Atb318

Anonymous said...

FROM A REAL NATIONAL SOCIALIST:

The old repeated absurd accusations against the ANP really just show the EXTREME limited intellectual capacity of the poster. If you think National-Socialism is "leftist" (or rightist for that matter) then obviously you haven't read Mein Kampf - The blueprint for the ANP as it should be for any legit NS org.

The ANP sticks to core NS ideology and values and remains America's only political NS group. This is obvious from their recorded TalkShoe programs and their written material on their website. If you don't understand what NS is all about, you just make a fool out of yourself by attacking a real NS org. Get it?

Anonymous said...

10:43 is right on, This is from one of the ANP's many troll sites, see how they say you dont have to get your ass out of your chair.

The ANP Guide to Online Activism by Axl Hess
I have felt it necessary for some time to write out a guide to promoting the “14 Words” and National Socialism without ever leaving one’s chair.http://whitehonor.com/page/7/

Anonymous said...

11:22PM I believe that they are directing their thoughts at people like you. Since people like you won't do anything or much in the real world, they are prompting some suggestions of what you COULD do, to be of use. Once again, the pragmatic realism of the ANP. Get as much milage from net-nazi's, drones and cowards as you can - its all better than nothing.

Anonymous said...

A REAL NATIONAL SOCIALIST SPEAKS - Since I prefer to remain an anonymous coward, who refuses to give my name, or anything that I've personally accomplished for the National Socialists Struggle myself, I once more pontificate more grand words that amount to little more than wasted breath. Behind the safety of my internet anonymous postings, I will continue with my denegrating others who attempt to do something beyond peck on a keyboard. In truth, I did try something once. I created the long forgotten NSALP, where I used a fake name, and derided other sincere NS, hoping to gather together some naive newbi's to follow my 3rd reich ego trip through attacking others. It didn't work and was a total flop. I guess, my trying the ANP attacks on the NSM wouldn't work, as the ANP attacks on the NSM has a lot of truth to back them up, but mine against the ANP were groundless. Oh well. Now in my bitterness, I find solice in attacking Rocky Suhayda by ridiculing his name, and making jealous comments about the American Nazi Party. No, I won't call into the ANP TalkShoe radio show, because they might find out some how who I am, and I'm terribly afraid of that being known. That was a major problem trying to be a nazi leader using a fake name, with no movement history. People simple have no trust. Stupid goyim! Frank Cohn, and Andy Greenbaum were successful in playing nazi leaders, whats wrong with me? No one even knows I'm jewish, yet. Its pretty sad when I offer to fund a nazi group, with no dues or pledges, and no body but a handful of losers wants to join. You would think that the goys aren't as stupid as I was told. Well, white workers, forget about the ANP, dispite what they say, they aren't your friends, or advocates. You don't need white worker representation, the wealthy businessmen are your best friends! Forget about those mostly white crowds of OWS, they were all angry reds who bite the hand that feeds them - crumbs. Our problems are QUEERS, and NIGGERS, and SAND-NIGGERS, especially the latter - the enemies of jew israel! Forget that it is the rich, powerful jews who brought them over here in the first place. Lastly, ALL JEWS are WEALTHY and want to intergrate and race mix! There are NO poor and working class jews! Every jew is rich and powerful. Just like every queer wants to sodomize YOU, they wake up in the morning hoping to find you alone so that they can have their way with you! You better watch out! Queers are so strong and powerful that you have zero chance of defending yourself from their limpwristed, pawing attacks. You white men are nothing when it comes to a GAY ATTACK! I know! I myself was accosted in my office today, and I couldn't fend off this gay beast! It was pretty awful at first... I must return to my kosher ball, to see what the ANP isn't doing now. More later, for sure!

Anonymous said...

Brilliant 2:57pm!! Spot-on! The attacks on the ANP are so absurd I truly read them just for the comedy...

Anonymous said...

"THE REAL NATIONAL SOCIALIST" replies:

Note how ANP minions use a combination of high school-like and jew-l tackics in the emotional rant responses. Take for instances the ANP replies posted at 5:43PM and 2:57PM. The post at 5:43PM claims the ANP follows strict National Socialist Principals, yet provides no specific policy parallels to prove his/her/its point, the poster also says I claimed National Socialism is Leftist, I never made that claim, I have claimed the ANP is Leftist, which it is based on its stated positions.The Post at 2:57PM is no doubt by one of the homosexuals in the ANP, his emotionalism shines brightly. His post is laden with angar with my prior posts calling attention to the fact that homosexuality has no place and never did in true National Socialism. Note how the poster attempts to defelct using the tactics of the modern day Queer Avenger by implying I have some fear of Homosexuals, the message is that those who oppose this disease which the Jew uses to destroy Aryan Familyhood is somehow normal and those that oppose it are to be mocked. Note the poster at 2:57PM attempt to use bogus arguments and even attacks me for not "signing my name", while he/her/it did not sign the post. This has been a typical Jew-Leftist-Homosexual tactic of the ANP, they attack others when the ANP itself is guilty of doing what it attcks others for. Rocky Suhayda's political bi-sexuality led to the ANP's "sexual liberation" policies perhaps, he cares not who he climbs into bed with, as long has that person leaves the cash on the nighstand, that is political prostitution, something real National Socialism seeks to end. Unlike the "low-information" posters at 2:57 and 5:43, I have seen little need to belong to Groups, because they all have the same flaws, at least the ones I have seen thus far. I also couldn't help but notice that the ANP :43 went out of his way to defend the negroids and other non-whites in his post. Dare I say the ANP is fast becoming an outright affiliate of the NAACP in addition to its long standing fetish with the SPLC and ADL. Mr. Suyahda has long used all the politically correct language when attacking Aryans, perhaps he will now declare ebonics as a National Socialist language.

Anonymous said...

Notice how 5:19PM bitches and whines all the time. Like a little girl on the playground screaming for attention. Shut the fuck up. Nobody in this blog cares what the hell you think=talker.

Anonymous said...

What a hypocrite the phony "National-Socialist" at 5:19 is! "High school-like and jew-l tackics [sic] in the emotional rant responses" is all he has ever used!

If you claim the ANP is somehow "leftist" with your warped thinking then you are also proclaiming NS to be leftist since the ANP = NS pure and simple.

Your obsession with homosexuals is also disturbing as you are the only one that brings up such sick perversions. Isn't there a gay forum you could make a fool out of yourself on?

You clearly have nothing useful to contribute and haven't shown any sign that you know a thing about NS.

Anonymous said...

"The real national socialist".... Give me a break, what a sick joke. 2:57 nailed it.

All one has to do it take a look at the ANP's excellent website and their affiliated sites to get a grasp of what modern NS is all about. Start with the ANP's FAQ or Positions page.

Anonymous said...

5:19PM You are either an anti trying to stir up crap, or your a sorry piece of shit yourself. You admit that while you criticize others, you refuse to join with others of any kind in getting involved in a solution to all the problems you prattle on about. Since your so wise, why don't you form an organization and show everyone the proper way to do everything? To much effort for you? Got better things to do? Or does your mom limit your time on the computer to accomplish much more than slurring others. Even the NSM tards are doing more than you, with their costumed nonsense.

Anonymous said...

I held my nose and listened to the ANP Talk show and OMFG, everything that the guy real NS on here has been saying is true, any WN should listen before the ANP fags take it down, Rocky is on there talking about how we have a lot in common with Jews and Jews will be on our side against the elite Jews, he is a dumb ass, he also says the swastika may need to go and he uses the word progresive. All he does is whine about shit and call everyone else a zog agent, but he is so fucking transparent. He bitches about everuthing all the other groups do but did say anything his fags are doing.

Anonymous said...

I just listened to the ANP talkshoe and applaud them for having new ideas and naming the problem that has led the NS Movement downward since the 1970's. Good work ANP. What a great bunch of thinkers they are and doers as well.

10:28PM. You are a retard.

Anonymous said...

A REAL NATIONAL SOCIALIST is amazed at the ANP Eunuchs...
Notice, the posts in reply to my 5:19PM Post

5:34AM, a profanity laden and illiterate reply, typical of what I have wriiten about in prior posts.

10:33AM, usage of my terms and again uses the Leftist tactic of defending Homosexuality by mocking those who oppose it by implying those who oppose the perversion of Homosexuality and its negative effects on Society are somehow the real problem. Understand, this is an ANP Reply, and the writter is most likely a Homosexual, the ANP is espousing the Pro-Homosexual tactic used by the Left. This Poster also says I am the one who only brings this issue up, when in fact it has been Rocky Suyahda that has over the last year made what amounts to be Pro-Homosexual Tolerance Position statements, which should be replied to, especially since he has self-declared himself the successor to Rockwell (fraudulently) and attacks all other National Socialists and Nationalists...

11:02AM is a shill for the ANP web site and ANP blogs; well none of those web sites provids specific National Socialist ideals. Most are nothing but cut and paste of news-wire articles with comments. The ANP main site has not had any updates with photos of any Meetings since 2009 or 2010 and despite Suyahda's attacks on costumes and Third Reich images; both can be found on the ANP web site as well as retail merchandise sales, something Suyahda also attacks the NSM for.
3:22PM is one of the ANP's younger members, perhaps he should ask his Chairman about living in his mother's home.
None of the ANP Eunuchs who replied answered a single question or issue I have presented, they have instead resulted to their typical unintelligent nasty attacks.
As with the poster at 10:28PM, I listened to the ANP soap opera on talkshoe, but stopped after about 25 minutes as I could not keep up with all the errors, mis-statements, and falsehoods which were made. Rocky totally mis-stated what the German-American Bund was, perhaps he missed the Rally they held in Madison Square Garden and is not aware of the various Camps it operated in NY and NJ, one of which was Camp Hindenburg. The Bund was indeed National Socialist and wore the armband. Suyhada's infatuation with multi-culturalism and "working class Jews is truly interesting. He seems to really believe that Jews are not as tribal as thousands of years of history has demonstrated. It is clear that Rocky's National Socialism is a version without the racial component that was the hallmark of the NSDAP nor does Rocky fully embrace all of the economic fundamentals of true National Socialism, thus is incest with Trade Unionism. I must say I found the rather effeminate voices on the show very revealing and a potential explanation for the ANP's homosexual moderation. I seriously doubt Suyahda has ever been in all the street fights be boasted of. There is no evidence to back up any claim Rocky Suyahda makes.

Anonymous said...

Rocky is his three or so remaining members aren't viewed as "thinkers." If you want to see thinkers, go venture out in public and go to the AMREM conference. Coming up with the opposite opinion that is contrary to the belief system you claim to follow is no a result of profound thought. Any 9th grader has figure that out. It is just and effortless attempt for attention and in this case, obvious subversion. Whatever it is that Rocky has set out to do, whether it for the enemy or himself, he's failed miserably.

Anonymous said...

I have a video of the street fights that the Michigan Nazis were in during the 1970's and 1980's. Rocky was right there in the front line. Good job Mr. Suhayda, plus Rocky ran for office as well.

Anonymous said...

Hey 10:12AM, put up or shut the fuck up, post those videos on you tube and lets see Rocky in the streets fighting the enemy hand to hand and not giving them hand jobs like he is doing now. Let's see something posted from Rocky's campaign, maybe some newspaper articles?? For all the ANP shit talk, no one has ever seen anything in the media about finding any ANP flyers, we have seen plenty about people finding all other NS and WN flyers, but NO ANP, we have never seen any proof that the ANOP does anything real except what ever they do in their closet meetings. They talk and act like antifa faggots.

Anonymous said...

2:25, you'll never see them and until the ANP gets all new leadership, they'll just be a few boring blogs that are as interesting as OPP and for the same reason. The lesson to be learned is that you can't run forever on big talk. In Rocky's day, it would go further than it does now. His apparent plan was to make bank until everybody finally had him figured out. And that is putting it nicely. Most people just assume he's an agent for the Jew working to destroy what is left of Rockwell's legacy. Personally I believe that like Bowles, he is just someone who thinks white nationalism owes him retirement regardless of absolute poor performance.

Anonymous said...

Rocky in a street fight, ya right, this is the little fuck that talks shit from his basement and from the safety of his secret closed door meetings. You know he would shit his pants at first sight of Gary Coleman, let alone a real nigger. Thats why he spends so much time licking the muds asses and talking shit about whites, so if the muds catch him on the steet while he and Bowles are out on a date night he can bend over and beg for them to take it easy on his old ass because he has not been one of those mindless haters.

Anonymous said...

If anyone has not figured it out yet, there is no NSM VS. ANP drama. You cannot venture onto the nsm site and find any drama regarding anp, they do not acknowledge the anp or pay any mind to them whatsoever. The anp goes on and on about schoop and the nsm like a bitter ex girlfriend, very strange behavior for any male to prattle on about other men like that. The facts are what they are about the anp, and stabbing away at the nsm will not uplift the anp nor will it win over any new people to the struggle. If carpetbagging and doing the job of the ara for them is the mission then the anp is a smashing success, if it is not then the anp is an utter failure. You guys really need to stand on your own laurels and prove you are not all just tough talk from behind the computer screen, and especially not just online bickering about other people in the struggle it makes you guys look desperate or worse shills for the anti racists and leftists.

Anonymous said...

Good golly, missed the comment about Rocky fighting the reds, and what fantasy story novel did that pop outta LOL!? Listen Rocky, there are still a bunch of us here in the Detroit area that knew you back in the old days, we have sat back and read your garbage attacks on the NSM and everyone else for years and normally keep our mouth shut because we would rather bump into you in person to discuss your treachery, but you never attend any events since we last seen you many years ago. Perhaps you remember why we all call you Rocky the coward? Remember the demo where you ran away because it was too dangerous and the rest of us faced off against the reds? You ran away and got beat up. That was the start of your running at the mouth. You were called out before for being banned from Bob Miles Farm, and you lied and said it never happened. Its a fact and everyone in the Movement in MI. knows about these incidents, and you have never had any support here and never will. You were a whiner back in the 80's and now most of us just wonder if you are actually being paid for this behavior or if you are just that bitter and hate yourself. The lying from your mouth and deflecting is worthy of a yid from Bloomfield Hills or a holohoax story. You are suppose to be a grown man, instead you remain an embarassment upon the name anp.

Anonymous said...

Bowles has been posting some good stuff on his Blog lately.

Anonymous said...

The NSM creates its own DRAMA. It doesn't need the ANP to create DRAMA for it.

In the last few months, they had their #2 man marry a nigger after allegations and proof emerged that the NSM Commander previously married a mixed-breed female and knew it beforehand and lied to his members about it. They have Mike Schloer whose former wife spilled the beans on his abusive-mentally retarded ass. He's a drunk anyhow that Schoep allows to speak when he's drunk as shit.

Anonymous said...

3:87PM OK, you want "PROOF" of my activism over my 45 year involvement, from clips off the jew news itself? Send in a FIVE DOLLAR donation to the ANP requesting the two hour video tape called "Michigan Nazi's". Five lousy bucks for P&H plus the tape itself. Why don't we put it on Youtube? Simple, because we don't promote those useless, harmful tactics anymore, and truthfully are kind of embarrassed that I actually "did that" for so many years. You CLAIM to be from Michigan, and KNOW me - well, WHY don't you SIGN your REAL NAME - afraid of "Rocky the Coward"? LOL No, I don't remember any "rally where I ran away and left you to face the reds" - why don't you tell us about it, when, where and who? I DO remember that demo in Minn. where NSM allowed a small group of antis take their flag, and where Jeff Schoep ran off, leaving poor old Allen Vincent to be beaten alone. That IS on the internet! Just as "I" have never been a RACE-MIXER - but, of course, thats probably next. Want to know all about the "nsm" in Michigan? Just Google-Up "NSM RACE-MIXING" there are pages of links all about the "New-School Neo-Nutzism" of these posers. Now just WHO are YOU? For White Worker Power! Rocky J Suhayda, Chairman www.AmericanNaziParty.com 88!

Anonymous said...

A REAL NATIONAL SOSIALIST PONDERS.. The post at 8:37PM obviously is a White Nationalist who also recalls Suhayda from the old days and his true colors. Rocky's running away during a street altercation and getting beat up and banned by Pastor Miles. Perhaps these are some of the real reasons Suhayda more often than not attacks Whites. Perhaps the event left him a bit screwed up and he is delecting his own cowardice onto Whites who actually do engage the enemy, thus is mean spirited attacks from cyberspace.

Anonymous said...

These people attacking the ANP Chairman Suhayda for unproven allegations, remind me of Hitler writing in Mein Kampf about those 'anonymous silent workers' vs the 'man who boldly stands forth on the stage, openly proclaiming his views'. I listened to the latest ANP Talkshoe radio show, and dispite the ANP's challenge, not one of you anonymous's dared even call in to dispute what was being said. Atho, I'm not a member, my applause goes to Rocky and the ANP. From what was said on the program, they obviously know what their talking about. Chyral Dinka

Anonymous said...

Rocky, Rocky, Rocky, where to begin, where to begin,

1) No one is going to end you $5 Sheckels to pay for one of your homemade videos or copyright voiolations you sell. IF, what you say is true, post excerts on your web site.

2) When anyone googles "Rocky Suyahda", gues what DOES NOT come up, none of the following:
long time White activist
long time NS activist
40 yars National Socialist
was in Rockwell's Party
fought the Reds in the streets

Rocky, you have got called on the carpet over and over on this Thread and all you do is deflect, call names, attack, and try to change the subject.
You have at most 12 members in your False Front, you attack all other WN and NS Groups because ou are either a False Front or have "little mans complex", you have no concept of real NS, your most recent Talkshoe comments prove it. You demand details and explanations from everyone, but never answer anything about yourself. You accuse other groups of being criminals, but your SA Man Bowles is a convicted Felon, you accuse others of use fake names, but most of your people all use fake names, such as "Axel Hess" and "Steve Davenport", this was proved when Bowles emails were hacked and leaked and are still available. You attack Whites viciously, yet play nice-nice with "working class Jews" and go out of your way to say Blcks and other muds are not the problem, you use all the SPLC, ADL and NAACP language, you like to call Racialists "Mindles Haters" all the while you have called for Homosexual tolerance. Rocky, you need to go away, you are a fake and your little cabal of limp wristed boys worthless to any real cause the benifits Whites. You need to "Come out" as a Communist officially, you are NOT fooling anyone.

Anonymous said...

Rocky is the real deal and I'd take him any day over race-mixer Schoep or tax fraud David Duke, or pirate-invader Don Black, or habitual criminal Paul Mullet, etc.

Anonymous said...

Rocky has more credibility than this anonymous creep trying to defame a good, and decent man. We all know what the Chairman of the ANP does, and its positive message is not lost on intelligent thinking white people. Its obvious to me that because of Rockys constant and unwavering expose's of the freaks within white nationalism, that they are angered by his couragously exposing them. If it hadn't been for the ANP's policy of turning the spotlight upon the movement con-men and degenerates, like NSMs Jeff Shoeps race-mixing, and Duke Schnieders marrying a black as well, where would we have become aware of it? Just list one instance where Rocky and the ANP have been proven wrong. I hear all these accusations against Rocky and the ANP, such as 9:41AM ( probably the same sick individual having some kind of a homosexual man-crush on Rocky for some sick reason ) keeps posting, yet I see no proof except his venomous words. In a court of law, an accusor is expected to provide proof of his allegations. All we see here is sladerous hearsay. It reminds me of the jewish big-lie approach. Looking at all the positive things that the ANP are creating, and doing, I can only say GO ANP! Karl Langly ANP Official Supporter 14/88

Anonymous said...

A REAL NATIONAL SOCIALIST finds ANP deflection and avoidance troublesome. I dare say that the posts at 3.52PM and 4:23PM are both ANP Eunuchs and "Karl Langly" is yeat another ANP "screen name" in the spirit of "Axel Hess" and "Steve Davenport" both of which were shown to be ficticious when Mr. Bowles emails were shown to the world by the very Leftists in the OWS crowd that Mr. Suyahda and the ANP have tried so hard to have "relations" with.

We see in these posts, 3:52PM and 4:23PM more of the same, avoiding the issues raised, not answering the issues in a intelligent manner, attacking, deflection, calling others Homosexual, when in fact it is the ANP that has Homosexual Members and it is the ANP that has called for Homosexual tolerance. These tactics are getting very old as is their attacking of Schoep, Duke, Mullet and other's character flaws. Surely they have no windows left. Shall we discuss in greater detail Mr. Suyahda's character flaws? What about Mr. Bowles and the whole fiasco involving the young Mr. Chappell, something Suyahda himself attacked Bowles for, until of course Bowles furnished some of those ill-obtained gains to Suyahda in the form of a "pledge", then of course Bowles was "redeamed" and promptly given a "title", something Suyahda says he does not do and criticizes other groups for doing. (hypocracy) Shall we get into more detail regarding Suyahda's complete ignorance as to how a Nation and National Socialist Party should be structured? He showed this by his comments in his most recent ANP Talkshoe when he proposed a leadership system that was an example based on the Communist Workers Committees and Politburos rather than a National Socialist System as explicitly outlined by Adolf Hitler. I encourage everyone to listen to Suyahda's vision of how a a Nation and National Socialist Party should be led in his latest Talkshoe, then look at the Communist System then look at what Hitler specifically stated the system should be in 1942. Rocky Suyahda's statements, positions and worldview is far more Left/Communist than real National Socialism, his proposals, what few he makes public demonstrate this. He would be very fun to debate, within in 5 minutes he would storm off in a huff after calling his opponent names, but not until he made his plea for donations.

Anonymous said...

Well FAKE NATIONAL SOCIALIST, why don't YOU debate him? Of course, we would all expect you to give your real name and movement history as a matter of course, for the record. In facr, why didn't you call in on the latest ANP Talkshoe radio program and debate him then? Rocky offers you proof of his lifelong history of NS activism, after you demand it, and you don't accept his challenge because the cost is less than a pack of ciggies, for the video? Like some others here have been saying, your tiresome slanders are getting beyond funny anymore, they are getting tedious.

Anonymous said...

I am new to the pro-white movement, and I would like to ask a question. Why can National Socialism be only for white people? What I mean, is that wouldn't non-white people be better off too, if they adopted National Socialism to live by its standards? I myself think that National Socialism could improve the lives of everyone, no matter what race or culture they might happen to be.

Anonymous said...

7:54PM I know Nick Chappell and he said none of those things are true what you say about Bowles and him. You are an outright liar. All you do is lie on this BLOG and tewist things around. You are worse than the ANP you condemn-u leech.

Anonymous said...

A REAL NATIONAL SOCIALIST replies:

To 4:40AM, I note that you have not signed your posting with your "real name". As to my debating Mr. Suyahda, I would welcome the opportunity in a profesional, mature and neutral setting and format, which the ANP's pathetic Talkshow does not qualify. Come up with something that resembles something refelctive of true National Socalism in professional format, tone, and setting and I would welcome the exchange of views regarding what is and what is NOT National Socialism, of course absent personal attacks, which I think Mr. Suyahda would find very difficult.

To 4:58AM, your plea for a "Non Racial" National Socialism demonstartes your complete lack of understanding of National Socialism and Nationalism for that matter, which is typical of the ANP, as is excessive violence and profanity is for the NSM. You are essenially calling for multi-culturalism, as does the ANP, we see that in today's world. What you call for is the fundemental principal of Leftist-Marxism. Race and the aknowledgement that Race is essential and the preservation of OUR Race is a priority is a fundemental principal of National Socialism and real National Socialism and practicing this does not make one a "mindless hater" as Mr. Suyhada likes to say.

To 7:44AM: E-mails have been posted on this very web-Blog from the young Mr. Chappel to others in which Mr. Chappell, in great detail, outlines how he was defrauded by Mr. Bowles and how he (Chappell) lost most, if not all of his inheritance to Mr. Bowles, who used it in his artificial "Presidential Campaign", having used it to pay off his (Bowles) past child support and other nafarious costs. Inciently Bowles was never a real candidate. He was never on single ballot and withdrew from the race under artificial circumstances when the Chappell fraud began to surface, i.e. the fraudulent sale of the Red Neck Shop. Not a single vote was ever cast or counted for Bowles. YOu say I twist things around, yet you provide no factual basis for your emotional based statement. You are a another bottom-feeded in the so called Movement who is more interesed in "personality worship" than a real cause.

Anchorage Activist said...

Anonymous 12:48 P.M. -- How about offering to debate Rocky Suhayda on The NewsGuy Show, which airs each Saturday on Talkshoe at 10 P.M. EST? NewsGuy (Peter Goodman) is pro-White, even if he is Jew-friendly, and will give both of you a fair hearing.

Talkshoe has some limitations, and the chat does attract some tards, but it would be better than no debate at all.

Anonymous said...

I think the ANP has a fantastic talk show. They discuss Real NS issues and solutions for Americas problems. For anyone that wants to learn what Hitler believed and what made the NSDAP so successful, that's a great place to start.

Anonymous said...

Man, the irony from the antifa provacateur "fake NS" clown is absolutely hysterical. He says, "more of the same, avoiding the issues raised, not answering the issues in a intelligent manner, attacking, deflection, calling others Homosexual..." And yet that is Exactly ALL that this clown has done on this discussion!! LOL!!!! What a mental midget...
AA: I assume you allow his senseless comments for the comedy? He hasn't raised a single legit issue or provided any references for a single one of his insane allegations.

Anonymous said...

A.A.

Do you remember any comments or anything posted in your BLOG from Nick Chappell regarding to the allegations 12:48PM is making against Mr. Bowles? I've been reading your BLOG for quite some time and never read anything detrimental between the two ever being posted. In fact, I hear they are still good friends and everything that 12:48 is saving is false (as usual).

PS. Notice 12:48 turns his attention to attacking Bowles now that the heat is on him to debate Suhayda. Typical bitch tactic.

Anonymous said...

AA I think it only proper, that we first know "WHO" this individual is, and "WHAT" if any history he has within the NS movement. Surely, this is not too much to expect? I honestly don't intend to "debate" some teenage, internet mini-fuhrer type, who remains "anonymous". Otherwise, I'm up for debating ANYONE who is serious and carries some movement stature. For White Worker Power! Rocky J Suhayda, Chairman www.AmericanNaziParty.com

Anonymous said...

A REAL NATIONAL SOCIALIST replies to A.A., I am not familiar with your proposed Host, "The News Guy Show" BUT I would have serious concerns with a "Jew-Friendly" moderator. Let's be clear, there can be no REAL White Nationalist or Nationalist that is "Jew Friendly". The Jew has made it their mission to destroy Aryan Civilization. Any Aryan who thinks there can be accomodation or coexistance with the Jew is a fool and must be kept at arms length. I will however look at "the News Guy Show" site and listen to some of his archives and consider it, however there remains the issue of Mr. Suyahda's acceptance and issues of format and substance. I care not to engage in in a "pissing contest" nor high school name calling nor a debate of whose "movement penis" is larger. We are at a juncture where, for our Race and the Movement, we need to decide if "moderation" and the casting away of core principals is the best possible course. Our enemies have maintained their course and have never waivered, maintained discipline and they have had and are having success while our "Non-Movemenet" flip-flops, in-fights, fragments, and has hundereds of "kings for a day, and the mre recent talk of the need to be more modern and embrace "moderatuion, be Gay-Friendly, and be less racial. When you stand for nothing, you need not stand at all.

Anonymous said...

12:48PM is big on talk, and accusations, but I doubt if he would even state who his is and what his credibility is to debate Chairman Suhayda. Just by the way he continues to purposefully mis-spell the Chairmans name, shows his character flaws and immaturity. Steve Davenport 88!

Anonymous said...

A REAL NATIONAL SOCIALIST proposes some follow up to A.A., A.A. I looked at Mr. Goodman's rebroadcast of the rather course interactions between Messers Linder and Wallace, I must say Goodman sounds a lot like a sports play by play announcer I am aslo concerned that he himself is Jewish, Goodman is a Jewish surname. For example Amy Goodman of the Leftist Democracy Now Program is a Jewess. She and her brother have been Leftist-Marxist activists for years. However Peter Goodman may also NOT be Jewish, but he is "Jew-Friendly".
Might I suggest you consider moderating a Debate? I am sure you could develope a audio venue. While I have had concerns regarding your bent toward the ANP and this call within White Nationalism for "moderation", I do beleive you could be fair and not take what could be considered "cheap shots" and would follow agreed upon decorum and format and subject matter. At issue is the moderator must have some basic knowledge of National Socialism, which I am sure you do and Mr. Goodman does not. Also, You do recognize the problems that plague our "Non-Movement", where we may differ is I take the appraoch is that it is caused by the chaos of soft and flexible standards and pricipals, while those, such as Dr. Johnson, call for some sort of "New Right" or "Moderation" that includes everyone, which is fatal. One does not inject cancer, or AIDS for that matter into a healthy body. Then of course is the issue of Mr. Suhayda's participation and agreement to a set of professional standards as to format, conduct, and subject matter. I ould like to show a wider audience that we Naional Socialists have depth of thinking on issues, have broad concepts on issues, and can have a civil dialog absent profanity and high school like antics.

Anonymous said...

A REAL NATIONAL SOCIALIST clarifies, I do apologize for instances where I have mispelled Mr. Suhayada's name, as well as other typos. Incidently, this was raised by "Steve Davenport", who we learned was a "screen name", can we learn who he really is? I might also ask just what is the ethnicity of "Suhayda"? My guess is Slavic? I see more replies from other ANP Eunuchs who use profanities, name calling and other rather childish tactics, such as attempted deflection. I also see Mr. Suhayda dodging the issue of a debate by deflecting and hiding behind the artificial issue of what my qualifications such as time in some "NS Org" or "Movement". If we used tenure and results as a basis, then Mr. Suhayda should be considered an abject failure. He claimes some 40 years in the "Movement" and Chairman of the "ANP" since he renamed his prior entity in the mid 1990's, thus 15 to 18 years as Chairman, yet has very little to nothing at all to show for either his 40 years in the "Movement" and his 15 to 18 years as "Chairman" or as he likes to say "mini-Fuhrer". Mr. Suyahda's hallmark has been his attacks on Aryans and his embracing of rather odd issues of Homosexual inclussion and Non-Aryan inclussion, which are odd to say the least. I am neither a teenager nor an artificial head of an artificial organization. I have long been a National Socialist, since my early years, something instilled in me by family members. Furthermore I live National Socialism in my daily live, I practice a National Socialist Worldview. I wonder just how many self-described National Socialists really practice what they preach in cyberspace. I will go further and say I will debate Mr. Suhayda in person, I will shake his hand before and after a debate and will be happy to discuss what is and what is not National Socialism.
My motivation for my statements and for engaging in a debate is my utter disgust with the bastardization and corruption of National Socialism which has prohibited it from becoming what it should be for honest decent Aryan families.

Anonymous said...

Still won't reveal your real name and movement history, Mr. FAKE NAZI? What would Rock and the host call you? The Fuhrer of Shadow-Nazi's? Or maybe, Pope Nazi of Fantasia? How about, Chief Nazi of your moms basement? Jesus, what kind of freaks and jerks the WN movement allows to pollute its scene! This guy comes from nowhere, won't even state who in hell he is, and everyone is supposed to take him as a great authority on NS? I think you need your meds upped buddy. AA could it be possible that this guy is an anti, trying to jerk somebodies chain and laughing all the while?

Anonymous said...

A REAL NATIONAL SOCIALIST laughs at 4:06PM, I find the Post at 4:06PM very funny, especially his statement about the basement, especially given that the ANP HQ is located in a basement of a home that is not owned by Rocky Suhayda.
I have offered to debate Mr. Suhayada in person, I have offered to debate in a professional manner. I have suggested that A.A. would be a suitable Moderator. The Moderator must have some ability and skill to be unbiased, have some basic knowledge of National Socialism and the "Non-Movement", not be a ANP Member and both debaters must agree to professionalism, decorum, subject matter, What is & What is not National Socialism -- translation, the event must be for GROWN UPs and show that National Socialists are not illiterate fools who resort to profanity when confronted with a mature discussion.
I am willing to travel to a neutral location, A.A. could moderate the event and record it as a MP3 file and post it right here. This should be no problem for Mr. Suhayda, he could pay his travel costs from the ANP Treasury and call it "Party Building" as it would show case his prowess of National Socialism and his worldly experiences.

Anonymous said...

The anonymous guy who offered to debate antifa star Rocky Suhayduh seems to have struck a nerve with the anp and now they are calling him names too. Ha ha ha ha ha. Seriously no one in this world believes this modern day fake anp is actually a legit NS group, and certainly not even Pro-White. You guys are not welcome or allowed at any pro-white function anywhere. You are a 8 man group that are a couple of expelled NSM members, along with a few homosexuals (thus the anp gay friendly policy), and Rocky the coward who attacks literally everyone and every group non stop online. A grown man who acts like a little school girl. The NSM has long ignored the anp, and this is about the only site that allows those anti's to post anything at all outside their own out dated crap sites. Anonymous guy had good points about the anp, but acknowledging them only encourages their online name calling. They will not debate you in real life, Rocky would be to afraid if real NS found out where the debate was he would be dragged out in real life kicking and crying! Hey Rock, how about a private meeting between your group and a few guys from the NSM in real life, would be hilarious to see that go down without your zog masters protecting you.

Anonymous said...

A REAL NATIONAL SOCIALIST REPLIES, I find some partial agreement with the post at 8:40PM. I would go so far as to agree to keep the debate location a secret, just me, Mr. Suhayda and A.A., should he agree to be the Moderator. However, Mr. Suhayda would have to agree and not bring his "Merry Men" along as well, in the interest of fairness. I believe I have made serious proposals and accomodations. It does seem many are far more comfortable doing this back and forth discourse via cyberspace. I think it is time for all who self identify as White Nationalist and National Socialist to have such a dialog as has been proposed. Perhaps there is some "Elder Statesman" in the "Movement" who has enjoyed this back and forth and sees merit in this concept and would entertain the idea of moderating this proposed debate/discussion and suggest an adaquate Venue? I have received one email already suggesting Jim Giles who I find utterly unacceptable.

Anonymous said...

A REAL NATIONAL SOCIALIST responds to Mr. Suhaydata's request to know who I am. Everyone pay attention now. Obviously such a request is very homosexual and I will not say who I am because I am doing so much more good for REAL NATIONAL SOCIALISM by remaining an anonymous coward online and spewing vile attacks against everyone who doesn't bow before me.

Is it quite clear that I don't need to present any qualifications for homosexual Suhaydda because as I said, I am A REAL NATIONAL SOCIALIST and this is proven because I repeated it anonymously online. The odd, and quite disturbing, request to know who I am makes me laugh a deep mighty laugh. I have presented myself accurately in the manner in which a REAL NATIONAL SOCIALIST should act because I have done nothing except repeat childish insults and emotional hate filled rants that really have nothing to do with reality or even sanity.

A REAL NATIONAL SOCIALIST HAS SPOKEN!

Anonymous said...

8:40PM The only problem with what you suggest, is that Rocky not being a felon has guns. Since it seems a priority that NSM members have a feony background, like Jeff Schoep, or will soon have one simply by belonging to NSM, that they would show up wielding chairs, and from what we've all seen in the past, they aren't really that proficient with them! I have a suggestion, have the cops who always protect your fat, drunken ass's at your carnival behind police barriers, drive you over in their convict bus? Don't forget to bring along a card table so Jeff can set up a stand to peddle his t-shirts and crap. The only question in my mind is, how many of your tards are going to be standing on the sidelines filming, and how many are gonna get hurt? Kenny in Detroit 14.88

Anonymous said...

8:40PM=shadow Nazi strike again.

Anonymous said...

WHICH group within the whole spectrum of the WN movement gets total zog protection, from being bussed in and out from their circus's, to protective cages, and legions of zogs cops? NSM! If the zog wouldn't be there to keep their candy ass's safe, they wouldn't be in public looking dysfuncional and weak. Jeff Schoep chose ZOG's protection and traded off his members anonimity from being carded, indexed and filed by the enemy. No other NS organization has co-operated so closely with the ZOG than has Jeff Schoep and his merry band of Village People. Remember, NSM chooses to co-operate with ZOG, there is no law saying that they have to.

Anonymous said...

5:11, who do you think you are talking to? High school kids? We are in the real world and know that the NSM has state cops around them for 3 hours tops and are usually in country for a day or two before, during and after their event. Are you new to the movement or just dumb? The rest of the time, the Nsm has to fight off attacks left and right.

I see the ANP shoots before aiming again. If you all are saying the Real NS is an anti, then you are basically pointing out that a random anti apparently knows more about national socialism than Rocky does. Too funny.

I'm not an Nsm member or ever will be but it would be funny to see them run across a few ANP twerps. I'd like to see Rocky and Taylor's spin on that one!

Anonymous said...

11:14AM "In country" WHERE - in FANTASYLAND? You make it sound like those tubbalards and misfits were going off to battle somewhere - lol. Funny? The ANP had better watch out, they might ought be afraid that any NSMer that got a lesson, just might be a Fed undercover agent and yes, that could cause some courtroom drama. Rockys lived about 20 minutes from the NSM headquarters for over 20 years, and no NSMer's been harmed yet from acting overly stupid. I advise them to continue staying out of harms way.

Anonymous said...

"THE REAL NATIONAL SOCIALIST" replies to ANP Eunuchs,

The post at 12:53AM is a prime example of ANP nonsense, the post even uses SPLC and ADL language, "hate filled rants that really have nothing to do with reality", this is language used often by antis. Also it should be noted that the Poster has grossly misspelled Mr. Suyahda's name, worse than my few prior typos. Interesting, the Post refers to "Homosexual Suhaydda", is this an admission? This post is so laughable with its pathetic attempts at diversion and lacl of mature dialog, completly NON-National Socialist, the psot is also lacking a name, as have been nearly all of the ANP replies which have demanded mine, shall I say hypocracy.

The Post at 1:18AM seems to forget that the ANP web site sell merchandise, some of which is reproduced copyrighted material and on nearly every ANP Blog and even post is the standard ANP Tag line about $5 Info Packs and $25 Newsletters.

5:11AM is a childish post comparing one Group to another. Law enforcement does appear at NSM events, in most cases Law Enforcement is aware of NSM events because of the submittal of permits and WILL be present whether the NSM wants thme here or not. I am NOT a NSM supporter,but it should be noted that Adolf Hitler did in fact make use of the German Police Force on several occasions. The ANP does not have this issue because it never does anything out of the closet or out of cyberspace.

AS 11:14AM correctly implies, I am NOT a Anti, in fact many prominate White Nationalists and National Socialists know me and as I have said, I live the National ocialist Worldview. I have never been in prison, never race mixed, and have never had to resort to childish antics or profanity in debate. Likewise, I am a known National Socialist in my community and because of how I live my life and carry myself I never find myself at odds with anyone.

I await the opportunity to debate, in person, the future of what is and what is not and what should be and what should not be National Socialism.

Anonymous said...

This guy is so fucked up, that I wonder where his keeper is. Both AA and Rocky have long stated on this forum, that its overdue to purge this movement of lunatics and fruitcakes, I suggest that we start with this one. I'm surprised that he's not with the NSM. He's officer material.

Anonymous said...

This 'Real National Socialist" character, 2:47PM sounds like he thinks he's God or something. His last sentence sounds outright DELUSIONAL, we get it pal, now have mommy put on your crown from Burger King, and take a few deep breaths and calm down... I picture this poster, as one of those maniacs who shoots up a movie theater showing some comic book hero he's got a problem with.

Anonymous said...

The "real national socialist" nut case is a prime example of what a True NS should NOT be.

Anonymous said...

Hey A.A., why don't you do the debate?? I see Rocky pussed out or has avoided the thing, he would be really made a fool of he had to do a real debate he talks about being all professional and shit, well let him put up or shut the fuck up

Anonymous said...

Gosh A.A. Why don't you delete that nutcase REAL NATIONAL SOCIALIST nutsy-ramblings. He sounds like he belongs in a mental institution or perhaps make him a member of the NSALP. lol

Anonymous said...

Rocky, I advise you not to lower yourself to any kind of 'debate' with this cowardly moron. He's shown everybody here, just what his mentality is, and I believe that your above that kind of nonsense, viewing your writings and listening to you speak. Since he still hasn't even had the decency to say clearly who he is, yet ridicules your name, I suggest that you ignore him. At least he's provided us all with some amusement! Kelly J.

Anonymous said...

Here it is Feb 1st and no rally, this is another typical publicity stunt by the NSM, just like their patroling in Florida was a scam last year. Jeff Schoep is one hell of a dependable LIAR! NSM is a JOKE!