Thursday, October 18, 2012

National Alliance News Website Deliberately Disabled By Its Creator In Dispute With Chairman Erich Gliebe

Is the National Alliance finally imploding? When I visited the new National Alliance News website this afternoon (October 18th), I saw the following message:


The old Natallnews.com site, now an archive, is still available, as is the main National Alliance website itself. However, the National Alliance Sacramento Unit's website has also been disabled:


The Sacramento Unit's Coordinator was Jim Ring. Just before the new Natallnews website was disabled, I read a story about an appearance by the Sacramento Unit at a local gun show. There was a picture of the NA activists, and Ring was absent from the photo. The explanation was that the Unit was trying to show that they could run an operation without their coordinator present. However, the SPLC is reporting that at least one of the websites taken down was operated by Connor Ring, the son of Jim Ring.

More information later as it becomes available. The issue has also re-surfaced on Stormfront. Update October 24th: Former National Alliance membership Coordinator David Pringle has just called for Erich Gliebe to resign.

22 comments:

Anonymous said...

Uh oh Eric, it looks like its time to buy an alarm clock.

Anonymous said...

The blurb about the gun show on the now downed sac site was written by Jim Ring; his intent was to show that he was proud of his unit's members.

Anonymous said...

You can't win them all

David said...

I still live just uphill from what was the old NA national office. I wasn't aware that the National Alliance was still in existence.

Anonymous said...

A little late, the NA could have been saved if they only had had the gumption to dump the Barbarian and his stripper bride.

Anonymous said...

We all watched the rapid fall of the NA in the wake of Dr. Pierces death. 10 years on and its a shadow of its former self. Sorry to criticze a dead man, but Pierce didnt have the proper leadership structure in place to sustain the NA for the long term. Many others have talked about this. There was no one lined up, selected by Pierce to step up and lead after he was gone. It is sad to see his lifes work go to waste.

Wasnt this Gleibs second turn as NA chairman? He came back after Walker was sent to jail for getting into a barfight with Mexicans. Sorry state of affairs.

Anonymous said...

I do agree I thnk his x wife Erika who now calls herself Heathen Holiday Gliebe has ruined quite a bit of his reputation. That was a bad move on his part but an even worse move was giving that crazy chick a pedestal to speak on. Once they were married she decided that whatever she had to say was important and everyone had to hear it. She rambled on every message board you can think of and then some trying to convert people over to some wierd religion she still rambles on about. That in my opinion really tarnished Gliebe's reputation. He allowed a stripper to preach the 14 words.

Anonymous said...

Hey, you better watch out AA! Quoting from sources other than SF, VNN or I Hate Niggers, like you did with the SPLC webpage, is gonna get you called a zog-agent, a traitor and a marxist troublemaker! Never mind that the enemys media often publishes news that many so-called WN prefer not knowing, so that they can keep their heads buried in the sand. Or, that the offenders themselves, who hope that that "Old boy Network" will keep any crimes, or offences committed from the general WN communities knowledge. Thats one thing I admire about White Reference, it has never knowingly covered up, or withheld information from its readers, no matter how bad it made us feel. I myself feel that its better to know the truth, than to get burned again by some idiots moronic actions, simply because you weren't aware of what really happened and by whom. Thanks AA!

Anonymous said...

Disgusting how both the leadership of the AN and the NSM brought about their own organizations downfall, through their own personal lifestyles. I guess thats an object lesson to the membership to be vigilant when it comes to the guy at the top.

Anonymous said...

Come on Erica is Hot! We don't want those obese lumpen prole woman on Stormfront representing us haha !!

Anonymous said...

10:59,
Exactly. If the head honcho has serious character issues (putting it mildly in some cases) isnt it likely that they will attract followers of a similar type?

Been a major problem in this whole movement for a long time. Yes, its tough to get people to be a part of pro-White groups. Even many Whites who believe in the cause are hesitant to join groups/orgs. Its not easy like being a Commie, Anarchist, Socialist, Black Power, Brown Power, Feminist, Pro-Homosexual etc. Where its very acceptable to publicly proclaim your beliefs and get support from the media and government. Heck, most colleges and universities in this country have student clubs, and tenured faculty members that are involved in the above mentioned causes. You go public with WN views, yes there can be problems that dont occur with the politically correct ideologies.

So, you have a limited pool of people to draw from for membership in a WN org. Not a lot of people are willing to get involved. (For now.) Its even more difficult in regards to leaders. There can be some degrees of anonymity for group members, but to find WN Leaders who are willing to put their name out in the open, be very public and known, that's asking a lot.

Since few are willing to step up and do this, because of all the risks involved, youre bound to get some questionable characters.

Consequently, you have less than great leaders who might feel that since they are willing to stick their neck out and be in the public eye, members should be able to look some "minor indiscretions."

You have people who support a very "unpopular" (in the eyes of the system and the popular opinion/culture it creates) cause who at times are desperate for leadership. They very often wind up with "settling" for Sub-standard leadership. Even worse, the bad behaving leaders attract followers of a similar bent (Schoep and the NSM) who drive away well meaning normal people.

The rank and file need to stop compromising by putting their trust in those who dont deserve it. The good, sincere, leaders (there a few out there) need to be admamant about quality control when it comes to membership.

We keep seeing bad leaders and bad followers. This double negative makes for a very bad WN Movement.

Anonymous said...

At Pierce's demise, the NA boasted that it was pulling in over a million dollars a year. I wonder what happened to all that money? Whats there to show for it, but that abandoned property in WV? Gliebe must have lived high on the hog for a while. Did his wife get half of all the NA's assets after her divorce from Eric?

Anonymous said...

Erica was better looking then most women in the WN scene but that is not the point. Pretty or not she should have never been given a pedestal to speak on. Gliebe should have known better.

Anonymous said...

Eric and Schoep both think with their heads - their penis heads.

Anonymous said...

Don't forget that Shoep himself used to parade around his arab mama as if she was the Aryan Queen! Talk about drama, I wonder how he can face his members now?

Anonymous said...

David Pringle calling on Gliebe to stand down so as the NA can survive.


Anchorage Activist said...

Anonymous 3:35 P.M. -- Thanks for the comment; just published an updated post.

Anonymous said...

I have been to many NSM events where Jeff's x wife attended and the weird thing is he was usually not around her much. It was as if he didn't want her around but she would still attend anyways. I just figured like most marriages she had some sort of leverage on him and I was right. She was threatnening Jeff for yrs to give out his parents and childrens adresses to the anti's. That's why he stayed with her for so long. Then when Jeff had filed for divorce and was out of town for a few days she snuck into his house and wiped it clean including his mailing list. I think this women is the worst kind of scum there is. She had never told any of us that she was non-white. I always thought she looked like an italian man. She would bring her white daughter to events as well, never telling us that she had another kid. She got a WP tattoo and wore a thors hammer neckklace among other wp stuff. She acted like everyones friend then just turns her back with switch for her own emotional gain. I think she is the scam artist. I think she only made her life harder doing all this though. Turning to antis after befriending WN's only leaves you with no friends and more enemies.

Anonymous said...

I've been around long enough to know that when people start talking sh-t about other people in the movement (and especially in public) it's usually because a)they're inadquate and want to bring everyone down to their level, or b) they might be just naive and not realize the harm this does to ALL of us.

Maybe the NSM isn't for you. Maybe the NA isn't for you. Maybe the Klan isn't for you. Maybe I'm not for you, but that's no reason to start draggin people through the mud to make yourself feel better about you.

Schoep is doing the best he can for the NSM and if we can help him we should and if not, we should put all of our energy into our own groups and stop tearing down other people.

Anonymous said...

http://erichgliebe.com/

Anonymous said...

Declare a new era for the National Alliance!

Please go to: http://natallnews.net/

Spread the word!

Anonymous said...

Erika Gliebe AKA Heathen Holiday(Gliebe's ex wife) you need to stop posting on here. The site you created and posted a few comments up just goes to show how obsessed and crazy you are. Man what is up with crazy ex wife's? You have Schoep's from NSM crazed ex and Gliebe's ex just to name a few. Guys in your positions need to be extra careful when selecting a mate. Do a background check. Don't just get with some crazed fan of yours. Not the smartest thing to do. Come on now.