Thursday, May 03, 2012

Jason Hiecke Explains In Depth Why He's Organizing The Advanced White Society, And Why He'll Remain On Good Terms With The NSM

Logo of the Advanced White Society
In response to my post entitled "Former NSM Chief Of Staff Jason Hiecke Organizing A New White Civil Rights Group, The Advanced White Society", published on May 2nd, 2012, Jason Hiecke published a response in the form of a series of comments. Because he took the time to respond in depth, I decided his response should not remain buried in a comments section, but should be presented as a dedicated post. His response was also posted on Stormfront.

And his response makes me glad I decided to give his Advanced White Society a plug. Hiecke displays an elevated sense of maturity not frequently seen within the White racialist community. He has no beef with the NSM and intends to remain on good terms with them. He intends to continue assisting in the operation of NewSaxon because, although it is owned by the NSM, it's intended to be a networking site for all racially-conscious Whites. And yes, there appears to be a genuine market for this new organization; Hiecke reports that at least 80 people have requested information about the Advanced White Society so far. His desire to leave the NSM on good terms indicates he might not have felt completely at home if he had joined the American Nazi Party, since the ANP invests considerable time criticizing the NSM, but he's diplomatic enough to avoid mentioning the ANP by name in his response. So in that context, I can understand why he would want to pull a Joseph Smith and start from scratch.

His response starts after the jump:



Greetings to all,

First I would like to thank this site for doing a little write up about me and what is now going on with the next chapter in my activism and life.

I would like to start out with stating several things. The article is correct about me putting this on the side years ago to join the NSM. I have really enjoyed my stay with the NSM organization over the years and I left on very good terms with the NSM organization and hopefully the membership. I still stay in contact with some of the members as they are good dedicated comrades. I would like to think I was able to leave a positive mark within the organization and the movement.

When I left my post back in May, I took some time to think about my next chapter in this movement, after all I am an “active” activist.

I did decide to take the higher road, the one very few seem to travel in this movement when they leave an organization. I will not get involved with any drama by badmouthing the NSM, Jeff Schoep or any other organizations. There is no reason for me to get involved in any of it. This is one of the biggest issues with in the movement besides egos of course. I decided, whether anyone likes it or not, to help with the transition of my post to the new Chief of Staff.

I have known the gentleman that has taken over my post for many years. I wish him and the NSM the best of luck. There are more important things for me to work on then drama towards any group with in the white pride movement.

I still help admin on the NewSaxon site because I like the site and networking along with most of the site’s members. Plus this is where I met my fiancĂ©. I will continue to be on the site unless Jeff decides to ask me not to be in the administration of it anymore. I hope I do good work on there; I try to keep the drama off of the site since it is a networking site for all pro white people and organizations. I am on many sites and forums and I hope I bring a positive outlook to them.

To answer the questions of: “Why not just join another organization?”

The plain and simple truth is this. It took me many years to come out of the lone wolf activism and join a larger organization. I spent over a year talking to members of NSM and other groups and reviewing websites and doing my own research. I thought back then the NSM is where I would most fit in and where I could do the best work for the movement. I dedicated all of my time and effort into the organization since I came out publicly in 2008. Since then I moved up the ranks and the leadership roles because of my dedication, commitment, organizational skills and for whatever the other reasons were that the leadership saw in me.

I have no regret about my membership with the NSM and I hope I achieved a high standard along with a good reputation within the movement.

I do not have any ego or any hidden agenda for starting the A.W.S. As any one knows the expense of all of the attorney fees, registration fees the setup cost and everything else is not very cheap. I have started this and put my own money into it for no other reason than to give good dedicated people a great organization to be part of. The only ones that will prosper from the A.W.S. are the membership and movement.

I have had contact worldwide and have listened over the years to everyone that has come in contact with me. I listened to what people thought was good and bad with the pro-white movement. I have learned from being a National Socialist and from being around White Nationalists. I have certainly learned a lot from those that are not part of any organization or group. I think this organization will appeal to many people.

I have sent out information to those that have asked about it (around 75-80 so far) and just started to receive applications and responses back. I have not tried recruiting anyone from other organizations; I think that is just sneaky, disrespectful to the person and the organization along with the movement.

This will most likely be the only time I will address the opening of the A.W.S on a public forum as I have today.

I have much work to do and I will not get involved with answering to those that are not part of the organization.

I only need to answer to the membership and supporters of the Advanced White Society!

For any of you haters that will talk your shit about me or the A.W.S have a great day, and my actions speak louder than any of your negative comments!

The A.W.S.
P.O. Box # 4
Birmingham, N.J. 08011

Jason Hiecke
Office phone ( 609 ) 261 - 1714
Office Email awsceojasonhiecke@gmail.com

27 comments:

Anonymous said...

Just what we need. Another NSM clone organization. Jeff Schoep is a race-mixer. To accept him as an ally is to accept race-mixing and adulterey behavior.

Anonymous said...

"I did decide to take the higher road, the one very few seem to travel in this movement when they leave an organization. I will not get involved with any drama by badmouthing the NSM, Jeff Schoep or any other organizations. There is no reason for me to get involved in any of it. This is one of the biggest issues with in the movement besides egos of course. I decided, whether anyone likes it or not, to help with the transition of my post to the new Chief of Staff."

How exactly do you do you "take the higher road" when it comes to Race Mixing? Jeff committed the ultimate treason.

The real problem with this movement is when people like Hiecke make excuses for unforgivable acts.

Anonymous said...

I can say from personal knowledge that the AWS will be "the organization" to b a part of. The application process is the "strictest" in the movement. The leadership is mature,and professional. Also they are not into the drama like the ANP, NSM, and others. I am glad that there is finally a legitamate alternative to the garbage can that is the movement.

Advanced White Society said...

Wow are there not some dumb asses on here?
Clone of the NSM mmm interesting since you know nothing about it the ASW LOL.

I never stated I condoned anything, and I state I will not bad mouth any one or any organization, but since your anonymous you can kiss the proud white ass.

Some of you people all need to grow up and stop you whining.

Trying to twist things around like the mainstream media or do you actually work with the ARA?

Failed attempt to dis credit the AWS and myself.

Interesting to be so tough behind your computer screen typing away anonymously.

I feed off of your childish behavior and spit it out into true activism and pride.

Take your toys and go play in another sandbox while a true White Pride organization shows you how to act.

Some of us have real work to do in saving our race and Nation!

Yours truly,
Jason Hiecke

Anonymous said...

8:21,
Didnt this AWS group just start like, days ago? Are you from the future, or just a pal of this Hiecke guy?

"Good terms" with the NSM. Well, there you go. Way to get off to a bad start. Yet another outfit to stay away from.

Anonymous said...

Wait until the NSM throws him under the bus. The NSM is #1 in bad mouthing its own members in private chatrooms that Schoep engages in as well.

Hiecke Admirerer said...

The addest part in the movement is pro-white organizations always trying to keep other pro-white organizations down. it's not the niggers, jews, spics or any other non-white race that is our own worse enemy... it's ourselves. Non-white organizations work together without all this drama, back-stabbing, bad-mouthing each other.

There are too many organizations putting down, character assasinating leaders and for the most part.. REALLY FUCKING BIG EGOS in this movement for it to progress as we would like it.

I admire Hiecke for not becoming the majority in this. He's one of the few who walks the walk. He takes it to the streets and not just sits behind some computer being a keyboard commando as most of those who claim to be activists do. It's easy to sit behind a computer anonymously and say anything to you want to say... because that is the cowardly way and also very jew-like. It takes a lot of courage, honor and loyalty to be out there in the public eye making a difference for whites. How many of you keyboard commando cowards can say you've done the same? Not many I bet. The only thing active in your lives is your ass spreading while you sit at your computer.

So, before you start throwing rocks, look at the three story glass house you live in.

Anonymous said...

Who cares, another alphabet soup club that will go nowhere. Heike has been operating his NSM chapter for several years now, and how many NJ people has he recruited? One. Now he's going to try it nationally, oh boy! He's still hanging around NSM in the hopes of stealing away some of our brothers but he can fuck off, no ones following a deserter. The Commander ought to pull the plug on this disloyal bastard. He was never NS in the first place, I saw that the first time I met him. He only stayed because the Commander made him CoS.

Anonymous said...

Not much left of the NSM to remain on geeod terms with. I counted 21 faces at their nationals. And the majority were old people.

Anonymous said...

Schoep Does engage in private chat rooms. He is also capable to go into peoples private emails and read them on New Saxon. I use to be on staff there so I know

Advanced White Society said...

Very interesting comments.
Wondering if people know how to read with out adding non-sense into my statements.
12:16
I have not aligned myself or the AWS with any organization or person.
1:01
Yes just as I stated I take the high road and not bad mouth anyone or any organization, I have not made any excuses for anyone.
8:21 Should read up on things before posting LOL, reference the first article on this site "On April 16th, Hiecke first publicly revealed his plans to organize the Advanced White Society"
"Good terms" means I have done nothing wrong or anything against the NSM
8:40 I really do not care if anyone tries to throw me under a bus LOL I am a big boy and can handle myself. interesting non of these comments are coming from anyone of importance and nice try to spin everything and bad mouth me and the AWS.
Some people must be getting concerned or nervous over a real activist, non drama organization showing up on the scene. Or maybe you guys just work for the government or even better the ARA and the rest of the opposition.

You children have fun in the little sandbox, some of us have real work to do.
A.W.S.
Jason Hiecke

crusader said...

Our anonymous sounds almost as sour as Anonymous. Pro-White activists should reconsider their ritual denunciations of rival organizations and individuals, including when these last fall to temptation and regretfully betray their principles.

Hiecke has avoided that, and indeed taken the high road. I only wish he'd refrain from foul language and denouncing "haters" in his statements. This is serious business we're talking here!

Anonymous said...

"Hiecke Admirer"

I certainly respect those who walk the walk and hit the streets and do things; real activity.

However, 1. Its hard to take seriously anyone who would "be on good terms" with a cancer like the NSM. You are judged by the company you keep. You cant gloss over or excuse what Schoep has done.

2. What has Hiecke accomplished in his time with the NSM? What does he have to show for it? Is this "AWS" a case of the same old tune being played by a new piper?

Also, why did he stay so long when it was obvious for more than a few years that the NSM had a lot of problems?

Anonymous said...

Anyone who "stays on good terms" with the NSM is dirt. You are known by who you associate with and this "AWS" will likely end up to be just another pitiful freakshow. I guess he thinks that baby-murderers and race-mixers are "ok."

Thank GOD that the ANP exists or there wouldn't be ANY National-Socialist organization in the US.

Hiecke Admirerer said...

People need to get their facts straight...

1. The AWS is NOT a National Socialist organization is not claiming to be one. So hawking the ANP is a moot point.

2. Just because Hiecke is on good terms with the NSM, doesn't mean he's attending their events or hanging out with them or Schoep. Just like leaving on good terms from a job... you leave your job and don't talk crap about it. It's the mature thing to do, as some of you obviusly don't know about what being mature is. Obvously Hiecke's decision on leaving the NSM was of recent events in the NSM.

3 He does not associate with the NSM. He is on New Saxon to promote the AWS, as the ANP is and other organizations. Keeping Hiecke on as an admin there, shows that it is not an NSM ran site. You don't have to be a member of the NSM to promote on New Saxon. It's a White Nationalist Networking site and is used as such. If it's a bad thing for him to promote on there and associate with New Saxon, then why is the ANP on there? Very hypocritical of the ANP.

4. The ANP are bottom feeders. Once that NSM membership list was released, they were on it like flies on poop sending out ANP membership information to take them away from the NSM. Very low-handed tactic, in my opinion. Even though Hiecke had access to the "updated" membership list, not something from awhile ago, he will not stoop that low to recruit membership. He has his honor and moral values in tact still. Something the ANP does not posssss.

5. What Hiecke has done is open the eyes of many by his interviews with the media. A lot of Hiecke's interviews were written as he had given them. Maybe you should get off behind the computer and go out in the real world.

Anonymous said...

Pretty sharp of the ANP to mail their info to the complete NSM mailing list, I'd say. They didn't steal it, once Jeffs wife gave it to the onepeoplesproject, and they posted it online, it became public information. As for ANP ever being allowed a mention on New Saxon, you gotta be dreaming! Jeff and Heike quickly removed any mention of ANP as soon as they became aware of it. I know, I used to belong to the NSM and posted on New Saxon often. Right before I recently quit over Jeffs race-mixing, I posted a few video's that I created mentioning ANP, they were repeatedly removed, and soon so was I, after several years membership. Your either misinformed or a hypocrite yourself! As for not talking crap about a former employer, is that what CoS was to Hiecke? Just a JOB? He didn't believe in NS or was totally against race mixing and those who engage in it? A lot of excuses there, I wonder if Jason isn't just an opportunist in the end, thinking he can do better than Jeff. Well, who couldn't do better than Mr. Brown Bottom Scheop? Chris

Anonymous said...

I'd watch out for orgs that want TOO MUCH info in their applications. Just a thought. It should be on a need to know basis, your not joining the "mob" you know. Proud to be ANP! www.ANP14.com 88!

Advanced White Society said...

Thanking the site for doing this write up and posting my response. I have received a large amount of positive feedback and even more inquiries about the A.W.S. organization.

Jason Hiecke

Anonymous said...

LOL "Hiecke Admirerer" is Jeff Schoep. You can always tell it's him by his writing style. Schoep always uses similar slogans such as "keyboard commando", walk the walk, and bottle feeders.

It's clear to me now that the AWS it a front group for the NSM. The NSM reputation is FUBAR. Nobody will follow Schoep, but he's hoping that they might will follow Jason.

Hiecke Admirerer said...

You idiot, goes to show you how much you know. Hiecke Admirer is NOT Schoep.

I didn't say "bottle feeder" I said "bottom feeder". Check your glasses, or maybe you've been on the computer too long, "keyboard commando", spouting your irrelevant dribble.

In any case. No, I am not Schoep. If you don't believe me. The owner of this site can probably see IP addresses and show you that I am not posting from Michigan or anywhere near Michigan. So, don't go starting rumors that aren't true. Let me guess, ANP member? It wouldn't surprise me at all since it's the number one drama starting organization.

Schoep has nothing to do with the AWS.

As for Hiecke's new organization. He doesn't need your approval or anyone elses. It will do just fine without any of you bottom feeders.

Advanced White Society said...

A little later in the month I will be involved in a film. This will be a great outlet for advertising the A.W.S. I will be involved with a round table discussion with other people dealing with our organizations, our beliefs and the White Pride movement.
This was something I have been involved with for some time and already had several earlier roles in the film.

It is a shame that groups can not seam to work together with out all the negativity. It would have been really good to show unity and more support for this project since it will be released to a very large audience.

I thought today started out good by receiving 2 more applications for the A.W.S. but for the confirmation of this made the day even greater.

Advanced White Society said...

A.W.S.
The Advanced White Society
[URL="http://www.theadvancedwhitesociety.org"]http://www.theadvancedwhitesociety.org[/URL]

Our website has now been completed.

I want to thank my fiance LadyC for the great job she has done with it,
Rich, the music for the video and all of the tech work he has done,
Chris and Nick for all the back and forth emailing and input for the organization, The new membership that have already joined and all of the supporters we now have.
The overall support from the White Pride community has been more then I ever expected. I have had a lot of support from White Nationalist, National Socialist and just regular racially aware people.
This has been a great experience and I do look forward to greater things in the future for the A.W.S. and the movement.

Thank you all

Jason

Advanced White Society said...

A.W.S.
The Advanced White Society
[URL="http://www.theadvancedwhitesociety.org"]http://www.theadvancedwhitesociety.org[/URL]

Our website has now been completed.

I want to thank my fiance LadyC for the great job she has done with it,
Rich, the music for the video and all of the tech work he has done,
Chris and Nick for all the back and forth emailing and input for the organization, The new membership that have already joined and all of the supporters we now have.
The overall support from the White Pride community has been more then I ever expected. I have had a lot of support from White Nationalist, National Socialist and just regular racially aware people.
This has been a great experience and I do look forward to greater things in the future for the A.W.S. and the movement.

Thank you all

Jason

Anonymous said...

I have a pedo living next door to me, he acts like a nice guy, so I guess I should take the high road and not warn my neighbors who have kids about him? After all, I used to work for him until I found kid-porno filth in his truck, so I guess I owe him? This kind of thinking is so PC that it makes me want to puke! Jason will collect a few dregs like Bill White did, and have an internet outfit similar to rainfront, where the words go on and on, to each other. Having be a forum mod isn't much to boast about. Neither is being friends with every tom, dick, and harry from every wierdo group out there. Your known by your friends, and if your pals with race-mixers, criminals, con men and satanists like the nsm, what does it say about yourself. A person is either for decency, or not, its like being pregnant, there's no little bit.

Advanced White Society said...

We have just updated our site and now are releasing a monthly expense report.
http://theadvancedwhitesociety.org/financial.htm

I want to thank all of those that have decided to join or support our efforts. I feel it is a must to be honest with the funding and where it goes.

I have now left the admin team on NewSaxon and will be focusing on our next project http://awsnetwork.org/

This was done and the project has been started because of the generous donation we had come in just for this project. This was not expected to be done for at least a year.
Because we are gathering more members and a great group of dedicated supporters I feel it is a must for me to focus completely on the A.W.S., our short and long term goals and projects.

I put all of my efforts into the cause that I can.

I still have my career that I have been involved in for over 20 years that I support my self and family.
I will continue to finance the A.W.S. until the organization has enough in the bank account to cover one years worth of expected cost.

Jason Hiecke

Anonymous said...

You are all a bunch of uneducated losers and a drain on society. Quite crying about all your missed opportunities in life and go get an education and a job. Try contributing something to society, no matter what its color is. Jason Hiecke and others who waste their energy on this BS are all idiots! Grow up.

Mike said...

It is my extreme hope for the future of white Euros that one day hopefully before we are bred out of existence that all will unite under a common flag!in 70 years has the NSM and like organizations actually done anything to improve white euro status or protect their interests?Have any other pro white movements actually done anything ?We are entering a new age of activism and one thing important than all others is to not "poison your bed "once you loose credibility people will leave the room .Standards,reputation activism and abandoning negative stereotypes is everything if we are to survive the onslaught brought about my the multiculturalists.Define white intersts support white bretheren globally with a higher degree of responsibility.We are entering an age where it has to be all hands on deck and no one person has all the answers