Monday, August 10, 2009

U.S. Political Prisoner Hal Turner Denied Bail By Judge Martin Ashman; Interview With Turner Lawyer Michael Orozco On Blog Talk Radio

On August 10th, 2009, U.S. Magistrate Judge Martin Ashman has denied bail to political prisoner Hal Turner, claiming that Turner, accused of threatening to assault and murder three federal judges, is too great a danger to the community to be released on bail. Ashman specifically cited the fact that Turner, from his New Jersey prison cell, managed to record and post on the Internet a telephone conversation that included the names of his arresting FBI agents as supporting evidence for his ruling.

Even though Judge Ashman also denied Turner's request to allow FBI agents to testify at the Chicago bond hearing, prosecutors acknowledged that Turner was an FBI informant, paid by the government to spy on radical right-wing organizations. They say he told federal marshals about a man's threat to disrupt a Chicago rally by lobbing mortars into Grant Park following President Barack Obama's election, which means he was an informant far beyond the 2002-7 time period originally claimed, although he was only paid for his services during the 2002-5 time frame. Turner even turned over a silencer kit for a .22-caliber weapon to the FBI. The Feds claim they paid Turner "tens of thousands of dollars" for his services. [Ed. Note: And yet this huckster was shamelessly and hysterically begging for money on his radio program.]

Nevertheless, Assistant U.S. Attorney William Hogan dismissed Turner’s role as an informant as merely a “sideshow” to the question of bond, saying Turner simply passed along tips and rumors to the FBI. Read a more detailed media story by the Chicago Sun-Times.

Upcoming legal milestones to be faced by Hal Turner:

-- August 18th: Next hearing in the Connecticut state case.
-- October 5th: Projected start date for the Federal trial in Chicago.

The court documents for the Federal case can be viewed HERE. Information about the Connecticut state charges HERE. Both the FreeHalTurner blog and the FamilyOfHalTurner blog keep the public informed about Hal Turner's case and personal welfare.

But here's an additional feature. On Thursday August 6th, Hal's lawyer Michael Orozco spoke about the case during a one-hour interview on Blog Talk Radio with The NewsGuy. The interview actually begins at the 7:00 minute point. Link posted below (embed removed because of incompatibility with IE 8):

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/TheNewsGuy/2009/08/09/Debeut-Show

Since Turner disclosed his role as a Federal informant, contributions to his defense fund have virtually dried up. Only $38 has been received since that time, as of this post. There are consequences attendant to openly admitting one was a snitch, even if no White activists went to jail because of it. Nevertheless, he still did articulate our Cause, and so he's still a political prisoner. The Feds are using Hal Turner and Bill White as test beds to perfect future repression tactics against the rest of us.

20 comments:

LARS said...

The 8th amendment to the Constitution requires everyone get bail.

The reason is that everyone has a right and a duty to assist in their own defense.

Judges, such as jew Ashman have RE-WRITTEN the Constitution to state, "BAIL IS ONLY AVAILABLE IF WE THINK YOU ARE OK!"

There is judicial TYRANNY pure and simple. Terri Sciavo was forced to "THIRST TO DEATH," because one low level "PROBATE JUDGE," declared her PROPERTY of her EX-HUSBAND!
HER EX-HUSBAND WHO NOW HAS ANOTHER WIFE AND CHILDREN was given the right to torture a woman to death.

Every jew judge to the u.s. supreme court backed the right of this horiffic jew to allow a woman to die by thirsting to death.

Here, the facts are clear. Chicago area judges have banded together to deny a constitutiomnal right to a defendant bbecause he dared to criticize them.

yes, i know this moron was imported from Florida, but the facts are clear, HE GAVE HAL 10 DAYS TO PROVE HIS COOPERATION, then he ignored the evidence.

As far as Hal's SNITCHING is concerned i could care less. The issue here is that if they succeed with Hal, will WHITE REFERENCE be next?

Will the great David Duke be tracked down and silenced? Will jewish alex linder and VNN be shut down?

Don't think it can happen to you?
Maybe it won't. Do you won't to take a chance?

As for Hal, its time he got a REAL LAWYER! Orozco is not a heavy hitter. Hal should now divert his bond money into a fund to hire someone like gerry spence or roy black.

Stavanger said...

He begged for his farking donations every goddamned time. Now it turns out he was on the Feds' payroll for YEARS.

Shame on you, bigmouth traitor Turner. May you rot in prison.

apollonian said...

"Informing" Is Blown Out Of Proportion Anyway
(Apollonian, 10 Aug 09)

Yeah, I agree w. "LARS": Hal Turner is great guy even if an "informer"--after all, all I ever did was to run my mouth--which still isn't illegal, so I never worried about being "informed" upon. And Hal Turner was a great editor for my purposes.

That's what people are forgetting about regarding "informing"--real patriots are not criminals, so why worry about "informants"?

CONCLUSION: All this "informant" crap is rather blown out of proportion, I'd say. As long as the shooting war hasn't happened yet, there's no need for any illegal activity--INFORMATION is still order of the day, all we need. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

Anonymous said...

LARS. Fact check.

David Duke pleaded guilty to mail-fraud and tax-evasion. So, he silenced himself.

Alex Linder hired Edwin Marger, a Jew lawyer, who copped a plea for his poster-boy Chester Doles. He made his own bed to lie in.

As to White Reference, all depends on what lawyer they get, I suppose.

As to "real" lawyers, maybe you haven't been around much. A few come to mind:

Larry Darby
Gordon Baum
Richard Barrett
Rife Kimler
Daniel Johnson
Chuck Knauss

And, of course, those who have passed:

H. G. McBrayer
Jimmy Venable
Harry Kelley
Hugh Cunningham
John Poole
John Satterfield

Among the discredited, with losing records:

Sam Dickson
Jim McPherson
Edgar Steele
Kirk Lyons
James McIntyre
Greg Stewart
Greg Aymond

LARS said...

i agree with your assertions.
if i were in trouble in chicago i would seriously consider this man:
http://www.leadinglawyers.com/atty_profile.cfm?TOCUID=1007366

LARS said...

OOPS!
ed genson! he knows the ropes in chicago and his presence alone would add to the defense.

Anonymous said...

PAID INFORMANT

While the whole time Hal spent at least 1/4 of his internet radio show begging his listeners for $$$$$'s claiming he needed $5000 a month to "save the white race."

Meanwhile, he was handing everyone's name who was suckered into sending him $$$$ over to the FBI!

Hal was driving a Lexus, smoking expensive cigars and living high on the hog for playing the Archie Bunker shock jock, screaming and posting his threats all over the internet as a FBI honey-pot operation back in 2007.

Anonymous said...

Fuck Hal this eater of cockmeat sandwiches. I hope he gets life at the end of a niggers blade!

Anonymous said...

Apollonian is a traitor also. He has earned that same thrust of cold steel that Hal will soon get.

Anonymous said...

I'm glad now that I never gave Hal "snitch" Turner any money. Although his case is an important first amendment issue, he's still a damn rat. Here are a couple interesting articles I found that I have not seen anyone talking about yet.

http://www.radiobanter.com/showthread.php?t=40303


Operation Lively Green

http://www.nowpublic.com/story-fbi-sponsored-orgy-cocaine-sting-went-wrong-and-ensuing-fall-out

I hope he wins this case, but I also hope they drag it out about a year so he can sit in his cage like a rat. There's a hot spot in hell waiting for that SOB.

Anonymous said...

It shouldn't be forgotten that Hal Turner was all buddy-buddy with Jeff Schoep of the National Socialist Movement. Both are disgraceful to the pro-White movement and frauds.

apollonian said...

"Informing" Is Red Herring, Diversion--A Topic Of Interest For Jews, Queers, Punks
(Apollonian, 11 Aug 09)

Ahhh, now the Jews and queers come out and sounding off--BY GOLLY, BUT U KNOW HAL TURNER DID GOOD JOB WHEN U HEAR THESE PUNKS.

So tell me "anonymous" puke: were u contemplating ILLEGAL ACTIVITY?--why otherwise are u soooooooo down on "Informers"?

For what Illegal activity is there that real patriots need?--WE DON'T NEED ILLEGAL ACTIVITY, DIPSHITS. All we need is INFORMATION and analysis, as usual. If u're seriously contemplating illegal activity, stupid punks, then DON'T TELL ANYONE, dumb-asses--FOR U'RE ONLY TRYING TO ENTRAP REAL PATRIOTS in such case, stupid morons.

Here's a little secret for the moron element out there: PEOPLE ENGAGED IN ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES ARE JEWS AND ASSOCIATED THEREWITH.

I liked and respected Hal Turner as he never hesitated to publish what I wrote-up. Almost everyone else was a scummy pussy. And everything I wrote was perfectly legal and true--that's my entire game, dip-shits: PUTTING OUT THE TRUTH, sometimes (and often as possible) then in dramatic fashion.

CONCLUSION: Everything else--as in way of killing and exterminating the partisans of ZOG-Mammon (Jews and queers), including "Judeo-Christian" (JC--see Whtt.org and TruthTellers.org) traitors and hereticalists--is all perfectly legitimate SELF-DEFENSE. Under such circumstances then (self-defense), u only need to MOVE QUICKLY and decisively notifying few as possible.

LARS said...

WHITE DEATH!
A CALL TO ACTION! NOW!
http://www.workingmannews.com/

WAS JFK KILLED TO PASS IMMIGRATION REFORM?
just left helen's website and for the first time a truth stood out at me, JFK'S DEATH WAS USED TO FORCE "HART-CELLER" THROUGH CONGRESS!
remember he was forced by the ADL in 1958 as his FIRST act as senator to write a book "A NATION OF IMMIGRANTS!"

that book called for the ELIMINATION of NATIONAL QUOTAS in favor of FAMILY REUNIFICATION!

Or as we know it today, END WHITE IMMIGRATION IN FAVOR OF NON-WHITE IMMIGRATION!

75% of americans were opposed to the bill, so JFK didn't publicly push it. To put the bill in the public, JFK was assassinated, then RFK and Ted kennedy actually used his death to pass hart-celler, that is true! RFK CALLED IT JFK'S LEGACY!

In exchange RFK was to become president, but he oposed the vietnam war, but johnson didn't, so immediately after passage of Hart-Celler, sirhan-sirhan eliminated RFK!

INSTANTLY THE JEWS HAD OPEN BORDERS WHICH INSURED THE DEATH OF WHITE AMERICA, THE VIETNAM WAR WHICH DESTROYED WHITE BOYS, AND NOW WELFARE TO FEED THE MILLIONS OF NON-WHITES WHO WOULD FLOOD AMERICA!

TEXAS GOVERNOR JOHN CONNOLY SCREAMED OUT "THEY'RE GOING TO KILL US ALL!" WHEN KENNEDY WAS SHOT, BUT UNTIL NOW NOBODY KNEW WHO "THEY" ARE! NOW WE KNOW!

druken teddy kennedy already beholden to the jews for mary jo didn't dare rock the boat!

Family of Hal Turner said...

Hal asked for money to pay for the show. He had a job that took care of his family.
Why should he pay the cost of the show? He only, and always asked for donations to pay for his server and other costs related to the show. NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT, unless, you think he should have paid so you could listen.DO you think when you go to the movies, the theater should pay you to watch the movie ??

snake said...

Since the feds were already footing the bill for the "show," used to entrap anybody stupid enough to ooze in with the slime, Hal Turner asking for money from his own sucker list is called double-dipping. Also Hudzpah. But, I am wondering what else it should be called. Rabbinical? Pharisaical? Or just plain JEWISH!

I am proud that "Hal Turner Family" calls me a snake. Don't tread on me.

apollonian said...

[Apollonian commentary in below-copied text, capped, bracketed. A.]

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snake [A STUPID JEW TROLL PUNK] said...

"Since the feds were already footing the bill for the "show," [THIS ISN'T TRUE, SO FAR AS WE KNOW. TURNER ALREADY HAD HIS SHOW, SO FAR AS IS KNOWN.]

"...used to entrap anybody stupid enough to ooze in with the slime, [FALSE--A TOTAL LIE--IT WASN'T USED TO "ENTRAP" ANYONE AT ALL--ON THE CONTRARY. IF SOME JEW TROLL CALLS IN AND SUGGESTS, "HEY, WHY DON'T WE GO OUT AND KILL A NIGGER?" IT'S THE JEW TROLL ATTEMPTING TO "ENTRAP." AND TURNER THEN INFORMING IS ONLY DOING GOOD AGAINST JEW PUKE.]

"...Hal Turner asking for money from his own sucker list is called double-dipping. [I WAS ONE OF THOSE "SUCKERS." BUT I CONSIDERED I WAS ONLY REALLY DOING IT FOR MYSELF AND MY OWN PURPOSES. TURNER PUBLISHING MY MATERIAL WAS WHAT I WANTED, AND MY CONTRIBUTING WAS SIMPLY FAIR RECOMPENSE, AS I CONSIDERED.]

"Also Hudzpah. But, I am wondering what else it should be called. Rabbinical? Pharisaical? Or just plain JEWISH! [WELL, U OUGHT TO KNOW, PIECE-OF-SHIT JEW SCUM, PUNK.]

I am proud that "Hal Turner Family" calls me a snake. Don't tread on me. [U'RE JUST A STUPID JEW TROLL PUNK ATTEMPTING DESPERATELY TO SLANDER SOMEONE WHO IS MOST EFFECTIVE SPOKESMAN AGAINST JEW SLIME LIKE URSELF, SCUMMY PIECE-OF-SHIT. AND THE REASON PUKE LIKE U ARE SO DESPERATE TO SLANDER HAL TURNER IS BECAUSE HAL WAS SO EFFECTIVE. THAT'S WHAT THE TRUTH IS.]
5:04 AM

apollonian said...

[Below-copied attempted to be submitted at VanguardNewsNetwork.com, but Apollonian finds he is pre-emptively banned. A.]

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Hal Turner Should Come Out Of This As Better Christian
(Apollonian, 14 Aug 09)

Hal Turner was and is an absolute genius rhetorician and will surely come out of all this smelling like rose, I submit. See VanguardNewsNetwork.com, "Chicago: Prosecution...," 13 Aug 09. Only scum are so quick to condemn such a brilliant man--after all, Hal Turner as editor published all my stuff when we used to have such outstanding dialectics on his incredible blogs.

Ck WhiteReference blog to see all the queers and Jews trying to "pile-on"--u might almost think they're "sand-bagging" to listen to them cursing such an excellent racialist and anti-semite as Hal Turner.

Don't u morons realize this is all most tremendous NEW publicity for Hal?

What's big deal about "informing" anyway?--inform upon what?--illegal activity?--well, as patriot, u're not supposed to be doing anything illegal, dingleberries--ALL WE NEED IS INFO, analysis, and strategic cogitation and planning, don't forget. Weak pt. for Judeo-conspiracy is "Judeo-Christians" (JCs)--see Whtt.org and TruthTellers.org for expo/ref.

CONCLUSION: My recommendation for Hal is to come out of all this as a better Christian. I always told Hal, he should be more like the good Pastor Carlson of Whtt.org preaching to JC hereticalists to effect Christ WAS NOT Jew (Talmudist). Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

ordinary said...

Still consider him a "political prisoner"?

[Associated Press wire-story, August 18, 2009]

Attorney says blogger incited others to help FBI

HARTFORD, Conn. — An attorney for a New Jersey blogger facing charges in two states for allegedly making threats against lawmakers and judges says he worked with the FBI to deliberately make provocative statements.

Defense attorney Michael Orozco told reporters after a hearing in Hartford, Conn., that his client, Hal Turner, published the antagonistic words so that people who acted on them could be arrested.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gn42Q8Vm5jjobEmzYXatzWxnm4XQD9A5DB6O0

Anonymous said...

Why is it that no one's concerned that the authorities had issued a frodulant affidavid claiming Hal has skipped justice. No one care that THEY have commited purgery
and that is OK? Every one seems concern whether Hal crossed the line by what he said.

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