Saturday, August 22, 2009

TNB On Trial: Day Six Of The Letalvis Cobbins Trial In Knoxville; One Female Primary Juror Replaced, Cobbins Testifies, Case Goes To Jury

Note: All posts on the Letalvis Cobbins trial available HERE; the most current post will appear first.

On Day Six of the trial of Letalvis Cobbins in the Christian-Newsom murder case, a primary juror was excused from the panel, Cobbins himself testified, possibly sealing his own fate in the process, and the defense finally rested, permitting Judge Richard Baumgartner to send the case to the jury.

Only one source, the Knoxville News-Sentinel Twitter stream, reported the replacement of the primary juror. The juror replaced was identified as a female who was a prior rape victim. She decided she could no longer handle being involved in the case and questioned her ability to render a fair judgment, so she was excused without penalty. The race of the excused juror was not disclosed, though we know the primary jury consisted of two Black men, five Black women, one White man, two White women, one Asian man, and one Hispanic man. The race of the replacement juror was also not disclosed, although we also know that the official alternates were three White men and one Black man. The reason the racial composition of the jury has been an issue is because ever since a black-majority jury acquitted O.J. Simpson, the ability of Blacks to render justice against Black defendants has been called into question. Update: New story from the Knoxville News-Sentinel indicates that the dismissed juror was Black and her replacement is White.

Next, Letalvis Cobbins decided to take the stand. Immediately his attorneys Scott Green and Kim Parton asked Judge Baumgartner for permission to withdraw as counsel if their client insisted on taking the stand against their advice; Judge Baumgartner denied their request. Cobbins then proceeded to illustrate first hand the wisdom of his lawyers' advice - and his own stupidity in taking the stand.

WATE Channel 6 provides the best summation of Cobbins' testimony. In his testimony, Cobbins continued his strategy of minimizing his own role in the atrocities against Channon Christian and Chris Newsom while maximizing the role of Lemaricus Davidson. He continued to insist that Davidson had intimidated not only him, but also the other three perpetrators, even threatening to shoot them if they tried to free Christian. However, this is weak, because the other perps could have overpowered Davidson at any time had they wanted. In addition, the prosecution was quick to remind the jury that Cobbins had lied repeatedly during the interrogation, thus casting doubts upon the veracity of his current testimony. Some pertinent excerpts from WATE's account of Cobbins' testimony posted below:

Eventually, Christian and Newsom were brought back to the Chipman Street house and all four suspects were there. Cobbins said he told Thomas and Coleman they should leave because of what was going on, but that never happened. Cobbins said Christian and Newsom were brought into the house blindfolded and bound. He said Christian was sitting in the living room and he brought her some water. He also said the wet blunt he smoked was making him feel sick. He repeatedly said he told Davidson what they were doing was crazy and "ya'll trippin."

Cobbins said Davidson called everyone into the living room and told them they were being too quiet and demanded to know what they were doing. Cobbins said he told Davidson they were going to leave. That's when he said Davidson pulled a gun without pointing it at anyone and told them he'd shoot them, but not kill them, if they tried to leave. Cobbins said he decided he had no choice but to stay so he sat down. He and Coleman smoked more pot.

Cobbins said Christian was taken to a bedroom and tied up on the bed. He said he brought her more water and untied some of her bindings so she could drink. He said Christian asked him what was going on and he said he didn't know. He said she also asked if he knew where her boyfriend was and he said he didn't know.

Cobbins said Christian asked him if he could talk Davidson into letting her go. He told her that he would try. He said she told him she'd do anything and even offered oral sex. He accepted her offer and heard noises that concerned him as he ejaculated. Cobbins said he put Christian back like he'd found her and went back into the living room with Coleman.

He said Davidson and Thomas came back into the house for awhile, left about half an hour later, then returned again later. Cobbins said he noticed dark stains on Davidson's and Thomas' shirts after they came back the second time.


He said Sunday started with a guy showing up at the house to get drugs from Davidson, but he didn't stay long. Then he said Davidson's girlfriend, Daphne Sutton, came to get her things. He said Davidson had called and told her do to this. Cobbins said Davidson and Sutton got into an argument. He said later, Davidson gave Coleman some clothes that turned out to be Christian's.

Cobbins said Davidson brought Christian into the kitchen. She had no clothes on from the waist down. He said Davidson called everyone into the kitchen, then tried to choke Christian, who fell to the floor. Cobbins said he asked Davidson again what's he doing and tells him that he's "trippin."


Cobbins said Davidson tried to force Coleman to check Christian's pulse, but she said she didn't know how to do it, that she wasn't a nurse. He said he spoke to Thomas again of trying to leave, but Davidson threatened them. Cobbins said Davidson tied Christian up in a fetal position, then he broke down in tears for a moment. He said Davidson put Christian in the trash can and made everyone else go into another room. "After it got daylight," Cobbins said, Davidson left and the rest of them left the Chipman Street house on foot.

The very last sentence about "daylight" refers to Monday morning, so this means that Channon Christian was put to death sometime on Sunday night. The medical examiner had previously testified that Christian's death could have occurred any time between Sunday night and Monday morning, so Cobbins' testimony narrows it down. Embedded below is a Knoxville News-Sentinel video of Cobbins' testimony. It is over 41 minutes long:

Afterwards, Judge Baumgartner began reading 128 pages of instructions to the jury, after which he officially handed them the case at 4:40 p.m. They're taking Sunday off to recharge their emotional batteries, and will begin deliberating on Monday morning. The jurors have 38 counts to consider in this case, including 18 counts of murder. They must reach a verdict on each one. The facilitation charges should be a slam dunk - guilty, with little debate. The murder charges could be tougher, but I believe a guilty verdict is highly probable, simply because Cobbins' effort to dump on Davidson is so transparent. The death penalty may prove to be a more difficult sell, and I wouldn't be surprised if Cobbins doesn't get the death penalty. This would be a travesty of justice if he doesn't get sentenced to death, but jurors no longer have the balls to sentence people to death as rountinely as in the past.

Media links:

-- Knoxville News-Sentinel: Carjack/slaying trial, Day 6: Defense rests; Cobbins only witness.
-- Knoxville News-Sentinel Video: Letalvis Cobbins Trial; Closing Arguments.
-- WATE Channel 6: Cobbins takes stand in own defense, deliberations begin Monday
-- WATE Channel 6 Video: Cobbins testifies.
-- WATE Channel 6 Video: How was Letalvis Cobbins perceived by the jury?
-- WBIR Channel 10: Cobbins trial day 6: Defense rests.
-- WVLT Channel 8: LIVE BLOG: Cobbins' Christian-Newsom murder trial, day 6.

Discussion links:

-- VNN Forum: Channon Christian - Christopher Newsom Murder Trial Coverage
-- VNN Forum: Cobbins on stand: "I had oral sex with girl"
-- Stormfront: Live coverage of the Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom Trial
-- Stormfront: SF Christian/Newsom Trials Audio Archive Thread.
-- The Phora: Knoxville trials. Christian and Newsom


carl said...




The government versus Hal Turner
As vile as his rhetoric is, the right-wing extremist's odious online views deserve 1st Amendment protections.
August 22, 2009

In bringing criminal charges against an Internet radio host and blogger who wrote that three judges "deserve to be killed" for their ruling in a 2nd Amendment case, the U.S. Justice Department isn't risking much public criticism. But the prosecution of the despicable Hal Turner looks like an attempt to punish speech, not action.

Turner long has ranted against public officials and others who don't share his right-wing views; his rhetoric is so vile and his manner so confrontational that they border on incitement of violence.

But under the 1st Amendment, "bordering on incitement" isn't enough to justify punishment. In 1969, the court overturned the conviction of a Ku Klux Klan leader who had urged "revengeance" against the government for suppressing the white race.

The court ruled that advocating the use of force couldn't be punished "except where such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action."

Why should the 1st Amendment protect someone who publicly says that a politician or judge or doctor should be killed? Two reasons: Such statements are often hyperbole, and even statements that include an endorsement of violence can serve the purpose of communicating outrage about public policies.

The "imminent lawless action" standard has been applied inconsistently. In 2002, the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a civil judgment against antiabortion activists who posted online a list of abortion doctors with lines drawn through the names of those who had been killed or wounded. (Similarly, Turner, who last year publicly relished the idea of violence against editors of this newspaper, posted the photos and office addresses of the judges.)

Perhaps prosecutors will present evidence that Turner's outrageous comments about the judges were intended or likely to produce imminent violence against them. If so, Turner's conviction might be warranted. But the government's complaint is not persuasive.

In pursuing this and similar prosecutions, the Justice Department should remember the words of Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. in a famous 1919 case: "I think that we should be eternally vigilant against attempts to check the expression of opinions that we loathe and believe to be fraught with death, unless they so imminently threaten immediate interference with the lawful and pressing purposes of the law that an immediate check is required to save the country."

Copyright © 2009, The Los Angeles Times,0,1500548.story

Anchorage Activist said...

Obviously I would prefer that Hal Turner successfully defeat the Federal government in order to better protect my own free speech.

But the fact that he not only was an FBI informant, but also an agent provocateur, banishes him from the WN community, at least for the foreseeable future.

apollonian said...

"WNs" Need To Get Honest With Themselves
(Apollonian, 23 Aug 09)

AA, u're an excellent journalist, often a good analyst, and creditable citizen, surely, but who are u otherwise to talk about "WN community"?--what exactly are u talking about?. And u and I both know u'll be able to give no coherent answer--because simply there are no "WNs" with any serious, coherent philosophy or organization.

So THERE SIMPLY IS NO "WN community," period--get real and quit trying to fool urself and anyone else. For that's where patriots always begin to screwing-up so horribly with this pathetic child's fooling, absurdity, and self-delusion.

And if u're willing to admit Hal Turner's right to free expression and speech is worthy of defense--then why isn't that good enough for total support for Turner?

For after all, if ZOG-Mammon has Turner in jail--without bond, mind u--then doesn't that itself indicate Turner's virtue?--he's got those scummy pukes quite scared, the filth.

WNs are just jokes--that's all--there's nothing there, AA, nothing but wishful thinking and "let's pretend" of children.

For the enemy is the Jew (and gentile accomplices), PERIOD, who rules and dominates by means of his (so far) invincible COUNTERFEITING scam the US Federal Reserve Bank (Fed)--see,, and for expo/ref. And the only substantial way of opposing the Jew is by way of REASON, hence then its most effective aesthetic, Christianity.

And look how Jews and queers so intensively keep up w. WhiteReference knocking Hal Turner--doesn't that also indicate virtue of Turner?

And didn't Hal Turner never fail to denounce and villify Jews and queers and their suck-alongs?--what's the beef? OH--he was "informer"?--of what?--against what?--CRIMINALS?--who wanted to inveigle Hal Turner?--and who are these?--surely nearly ALL JEWS and their agents--right? So why shouldn't Hal Turner "inform" upon these Jews?

Seriously, AA, u need to substantiate ur petulant, empty, and childish complaints--SAY what exactly u're so "offended" about.

Now u bring up the "Provocateur" charge--so what did this entail? So Turner incited anti-semites?--by saying Jews suck?--so aren't all of us patriots "provocateurs" then? I know I am--never missing an opportunity to denounce scummy, stinking kikes--I hate 'em.

So what I think is this: Hal Turner simply got greedy and went for the big bucks which are to be had fm the COUNTERFEITING Fed gov.--Turner figured why not?--this way he could be patriot AND at same time get money for it too. Thus he did some good (though he could have done even better)--AND made some money fm the Jews.

So AA, Turner did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG, and indeed did some good--though not as much as he might have. And if Turner did anything wrong, AA, it's ur journalistic duty to SAY EXACTLY, SPECIFICALLY what it is/was--which u don't and can't. U ought to be ashamed of urself, really.

Fact is the anti-semitic movement--which is the only thing worth-while and worth talking about--is still miserably, hopelessly un-organized. "WNs" are dis-organized, incoherent, impotent, fools, pure and simple. THE ONLY REAL PATRIOTS ARE CHRISTIANS, real Christians who are totally, absolutely anti-semitic (anti-Talmudic, as Gosp. MARK 7:1-13).

And the task of real patriots now is to RATIONALIZE present-day "Christianity" (hence anti-semitism), exposing the "Judeo-Christian" (JC--see and for expo/ref.), for foremost and thematic example, those gross pathetic dupes and hereticalists who so much and so well do the work of the Jews.

CONCLUSION: U're a basically good person, I believe, AA, but u're just grossly stagnating--esp. with all this absurd attn u're presently giving these stupid negroid animals in Tennessee. I'd say u're among the very best of so-called "WNs"--and where are u?--NOWHERE, comrade--u're just busy fooling urself, at least w. the "WN" crap. U need to get a serious clue, AA. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

Anonymous said...

Looks like the Knoxville Yankees are in the same class as the Kansas Jerk Offs when it comes to resistance, pride and survival. Remember how the Carr brothers humiliated their victims, who, if they had resisted, would have survived. The depleted American Whites just don't have it do they - but then - it's a matter of who's educating them isn't it ?

Anonymous said...

I started to watch the video, but turned it off after a couple of minutes. I was taken aback to see that even these particularly white-hating individuals had white girlfriends. The level of social evil is so enormous here that there are no accurate adjectives for it in the English language. I can accept an enemy, even an especially bad one. However, this is a bizarre predatory enemy with no idealogy, and the benefit of powerful institutions to back them up. For example, this was not considered a "hate crime."