After the results of the August 18th court hearing in Hartford, Connecticut, I don't see how it is possible for any White activist to support Hal Turner in any way, shape, of form. Itz over!
The Hartford Courant is reporting that Superior Court Judge David P. Gold authorized Michael A. Orozco, a New Jersey attorney, to represent Turner. Turner did not appear again in court because he remains in federal custody without bail in Chicago, where he is accused of threatening three federal judges.
In asking Gold to allow Orozco to represent Turner, Turner's Connecticut lawyer, Matthew R. Potter, said Orozco has a long-term legal relationship with Turner, plans to bring a complicated First Amendment defense and is familiar with Turner's background as an FBI informant. That role as an informant for the FBI is a key part of the defense.
But after the hearing, Orozco dropped the bomb, saying that Turner was specifically trained by the FBI as an agent provocateur. "Mr. Turner was trained by the FBI," Orozco said. "He was told where the line was — what he could say." Orozco further stated that, "His [Turner's] job was basically to publish information which would cause other parties to act in a manner that would cause their arrest". And this is not just another one of Turner's Tall Tales, either; the FBI confirmed that Turner worked for them from 2002-7.
Part of Orozco's defense strategy will be to show that the recent blog comments posted by Turner did not cross the line originally set by the FBI, although they were made after his relationship with the FBI allegedly "ended". Turner's next Federal hearing in Chicago is scheduled for October 5th, and his next state hearing in Hartford for October 19th.
Let's stop right here. There is a difference between being an informant and being an agent provocateur. Being an informant merely entails reporting findings back to one's principal. It does NOT entail inducing or soliciting criminal activity via entrapment. In contrast, being an agent provocateur actually entails inducing or soliciting people to commit criminal activity to preemptively flush them out and cause their arrest.
This is about as low as one can go. The fact that no one went to jail because of Turner's activities is now IRRELEVANT.
And as for his rallies? Circumstantial evidence now surfacing indicates that Hal Turner may have actually tried to sabotage some of the rallies in which he played a prominent role. In this VNN Forum thread, JimInCO, who attended the November 2005 rally in Kingston, NY, held in support of White hate crime victim Robbie Hedrick, wrote the following:
When YJ [the late "Yankee Jim" Leshkovich] and I were working on the Kingston rally, it seemed like Turner was continually screwing up our efforts. At the time I assumed that it was just Hal being a loudmouthed attention whore, but knowing he was working with the FBI makes me think that he was actively sabotaging what we were working on.
A couple of examples:
1) I found and weaseled my way onto an email list being used by the antis to plan their counter-rally. I fed YJ info from this list, which he passed on to Hal. Instead of sitting back and watching, he gloated about what we were doing, after which the email list was quickly shut down.
2) At YJ's request I did about two days worth of research on the opposition. I can't recall the exact details, but there was something that I found about the 9 or 10 year old daughter of one of the organizers. I sent it along, with specific instructions not to publish it (it wasn't her fault her mother was an idiot). What does Hal do? He strips away the text asking him not to publish it, then publishes it anyway. WNs targeting 9 year old girls, that always goes over well.
3) I found the location of the meeting place (a cafe, IIRC) where the antis were going to meet with local "green party" (?) politicians in order to finalize the plans for their counter-rally. We had the location, the time, everything. YJ and I were trying to find someone the locals wouldn't know to attend and record the meeting, to prove without a doubt that the local politicians were actively helping to organize these communists. Hal posted about the meeting before we were able to get someone there.
4) Hal repeatedly tried to get my phone number so that he could thank me, or so he claimed. I though that a bit odd, since he could have just as easily thanked me via email. I wonder how many shekels a random WN's phone number is worth?
And BTW, although Turner took credit for organizing the Kingston rally, let me be clear in stating that at least 90% of the work was done by Yankee Jim. As usual, Turner took full credit for the hard work of others, lining his pockets with donations (and tax-payer money, it seems) along the way.
And in this other VNN Forum thread, OTPTT relates how Hal Turner pulled a gun on him during the May 2007 Knoxville Rally:
This explains Hal's pointing his pistol at me on the morning of the first Knoxville rally. I believe he was trying to provoke me into producing any firearm I, or others, may have had with me (us) on that day and his handlers would have known of my previous experience in using firearms to defend my person from various attacks from both niggers and kwops. I can only imagine what was in store for me had I produced a firearm at that particular moment.
While Signal [another VNN activist] acknowledged that Hal pointed his pistol in my direction on that morning he (Signal) didn't attach any meaning to it. Of course I knew better or sensed that there was something more to it than just an irresponsible dumb ass playing with a pistol in PUBLIC several states away from his home. No one I know ever pulls out a gun in public much less in public and pointing it at other people.
No one but an FBI informant would feel comfortable playing with a pistol in a public area where any number of people could have called the local police and reporting 'a man with a gun' at a local hotel. I'm certain there were kwops and FBI agents in some of the other hotel rooms observing those of us who were gathered at Hal's hotel room prior to the rally. I can't prove it but the circumstantial evidence is there in my opinion.
Consequently, Hal Turner has now placed himself beyond the pale. He is worthy of neither financial nor moral support. It would be an insult to other political prisoners like Bill White to refer to Hal Turner as a political prisoner. I do not regret having defended him as long as I did; I do not believe in lynch mobs or vigilante justice. But Hal Turner has irrevocably buried himself with his own words.