Monday, February 23, 2009

Love Your Race: Creativity Movement Distributes "Racist" Flyers In Mechanicsburg, Lemoyne, and New Cumberland In Pennsylvania

The Creativity Movement is in the flyer distribution business. On Sunday February 15th, 2009, their flyers showed up at 22 homes near Marble Street and Sharon Avenue in Mechanicsburg, an estimated 12 homes near Walton and Warren Streets in Lemoyne, and an undetermined number on Harding Street in New Cumberland, all in Central Pennsylvania. This post combines and summarizes media stories from PennLive.com, WHP Channel 21, WPMT Channel 43, WHTM Channel 27, and the Carlisle Sentinel. Discussion on the Vanguard News Network Forum.

The flyers show a drawing of a woman underneath the headline "Love Your Race", similar to the flyer recently distributed by the Nationalist Coalition in Denver, except their version has the Creativity logo, website address, and a Hershey post office box where the group can be reached. Thanks to PennLive.com, which thoughtfully pictured the part of the flyer showing the address, we know that the mailing address is as follows:

The Creativity Movement
P.O. Box 912
Hershey, PA 17033

WHP news video has now been replaced with a Podblanc version of the same video:

http://podblanc.com/creativity-movement-save-the-white-race-flyers



And here's a Podblanc video of another report from WHP, same subject

http://podblanc.com/creativity-movement-love-your-race-flyer...



On its website, the Creativity Movement describes itself as "a professional, nonviolent, progressive pro-white religion." Their primary written reference is entitled "Nature's Eternal Religion", written by founder Ben Klassen. The most famous Creator is the former head of the organization, Matt Hale, who was found guilty of soliciting an undercover FBI informant to murder Judge Joan Lefkow and sentenced in 2005 to 40 years in a strict regime Federal prison. However, many within the WN community believe Hale was railroaded; in any event, a 40-year sentence is clearly over the top, and Hale is considered a POW by much of the WN community.

Mechanicsburg Police Chief David Spotts is interested, but not apprehensive. "The bottom line is, we're pursuing it as a litter issue. The content of the flyer is protected speech. Even though it may be offensive, ... it's not actionable".

Borough Manager Patrick Dennis said that, as of Tuesday afternoon, his office had not received any complaints from residents. Three residents attended the borough council meeting and were either unaware or did not wish to comment. Council Vice President Charlie Ryder said he hadn’t heard about the fliers and that he had recently thrown away a piece of paper left on his lawn in the 500 block of James Street without looking at it because he assumed it was trash. And New Cumberland Mayor DJ Landis said she was not aware of very many complaints about the fliers in her municipality.

A spokesman for the Creativity Movement briefly responded to a media inquiry. "Right now, we stand for a lot of things that would shock a lot of people," Rev. James Logsdon said in a phone interview from his Illinois home on Tuesday February 17th.

The Creativity Movement has not been popular within the White Nationalist Community, primarily because they are strongly opposed to Christianity. At times, they've considered WN Christians just as much of an enemy of the race as non-Whites and Jews. But it appears that Creators are moderating their attitude and are now using more mainstream tactics to win the hearts and minds of Whites.

One of the most prominent Creators is prolific White Nationalist videographer Craig Cobb, a former member of the Vanguard News Network Forum who now operates the popular alternative video site Podblanc, and who has his own YouTube channel HERE.

43 comments:

apollonian said...

Creators Just Need To Make A Couple Of Slight Politically-Astute Adjustments
(Apollonian, 23 Feb 09)

Another great story and analysis by WhiteReference, AA, excellent work, once again. And I agree, Creators need to get wise on Christian subject.

The mistake creators are making is taking the "Judeo-Christian" (JC--see Whtt.org and TruthTellers.org for expo/ref.) hereticalists' word for what Christianity is. Alex Linder/VNN does same thing which only serves Jews' interest.

But real, true Christianity is absolutely anti-semitic (anti-Talmud, as Gosp. MARK 7:1-13), and such Christianity is thus most excellent basis for white liberation.

The other problem is creators are against all other races (if I'm understanding correctly)--they should only be against anti-whites, which then means Jews and Jews' paid suck-alongs.

CONCLUSION: But otherwise, creators would be a-okay--they just need to adjust in more politically-hip manner. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

Hooch said...

"""The Creativity Movement has not been popular within the White Nationalist Community, primarily because they are strongly opposed to Christianity."""

The White Nationalist Community is very small. It is counter productive anyways to attempt to jump onboard a sinking ship to try to get some of it's passengers on to your sinking ship.

New paths should be broken because it is crystal clear that the path that has been taken for the past 10 years in the movement has done nothing but harm it. Numbers decrease every year. This year may show a small increase due to our new leader but there are serious factors within the non-movement that keep it a non-movement.

While there are different groups within the movement the public lumps them all together without distinction as radicals that they don't agree with due to radical elements within the organization.

When they hear one person with off the wall Jew coments (Jews controling the world as they are so much smarter than everyone that they have tricked everyone, Halocost didn't happen when there are thousands of pictures and video of Jews starving to death, even if they didn't cook them, extreme abuse within the prison camps was obvious.)

This kind of stuff throws off the average Joe and believe me, it doesn't matter what group said it or if even one person said it. When no one will disagree with them than it is logical to the reader or viewer that everyone agrees.

Saluting Hitler or the strange love for him to the degree of wearing a old fashioned military costume with the high boots and swastikas is another factor that drives people away from the non-movement. I must say that doing this does make them stand out but the problem is it makes them stand out in a bad way where they are looked at as fools by most.

"""At times, they've considered WN Christians just as much of an enemy of the race as non-Whites and Jews."""

I would have to agree here to some degree but wouldn't say that every WN Christian is doing harm. If every WN Christian was mentally unstable like one in particular I know of than the harm is great to a permanent "brand" damaging degree. Therefore, an enemy of the movement and the race it supports.

"""Apolo - The other problem is creators are against all other races (if I'm understanding correctly)--they should only be against anti-whites, which then means Jews and Jews' paid suck-alongs."""

Hate the Jew and love thy negro as they are not a paid "suck-along" of the Jew monster ;-)

Anonymous said...

I have met members of the Creativity Movement and they were very polite and never had any animosity towards any other religion (except Judaism).

Anonymous said...

Hey Hooch, you're a moron. Can you put a disclaimer on top of your posts that says "I'm an idiot, don't listen to me" so I don't waste my time on your crap?

apollonian said...

[Comments by Apollonian, in below text fm "Hooch," capped, bracketed. A.]

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Hooch said...

"...
"The White Nationalist Community is very small. [THIS IS TYPICAL OF "HOOCH"--HE GIVES NO CITATIONS OR REFERENCES, PRETENDING IN HIS GROSS, CRUDE IGNORANCE HE'S SOME KIND OF AUTHORITY WHO KNOWS ANYTHING. "HOOCH" JUST GIVES NO INDICATION WHY PEOPLE SHOULD LISTEN TO HIM.]

"It is counter productive anyways to attempt to jump onboard a sinking ship to try to get some of it's passengers on to your sinking ship. [AGAIN, MORE TYPICAL FATUOUS "WISDOM" FM DUMBASS WHITE NIGGER.]

"New paths ["NEW PATHS"--LIKE HOW, ARE THERE ANY EXAMPLES?--TYPICAL EMPTY METAPHORS FM IGNORANT WHITE NIGGER.]

"...should be broken because it is crystal clear [AGAIN, JUST EXACTLY HOW IS IT "CRYSTAL CLEAR"?--STUPID WHITE NIGGER DOESN'T SAY.]

"...that the path that has been taken for the past 10 years in the movement has done nothing but harm it. [RIGHT--LIKE HOW?--WHAT IS THIS IDIOTIC WHITE NIGGER EVEN TALKING ABOUT?]

"Numbers decrease every year. [AGAIN--WHAT "NUMBERS"?--IS THERE A REFERENCE?--STUPID, PRESUMPTUOUS, IDIOTIC WHITE NIGGER IS JUST BABBLING TO HIMSELF.]

"This year may show a small increase due to our new leader [WHAT NEW LEADER?]

"...but there are serious factors within the non-movement that keep it a non-movement. [OKAY, SO WHAT ARE THE "FACTORS"?--OBSERVE THIS ALSO SLIPS THIS IGNORANT WHITE NIGGER'S SO-CALLED MIND.]

"While there are different groups within the movement [WHAT "GROUPS"?]

"...the public lumps them all together without distinction as radicals [MORE STUPID PRESUMPTION FM THE IGNORANT WHITE NIGGER--IS IT THE "PUBLIC"--OR IS IT THE MEDIA, LIKE THE "JEWS-MEDIA"? IGNORANT WHITE NIGGER DOESN'T SAY--THAT'S BECAUSE HE DOESN'T KNOW. THIS IS ALL JUST STUPID BABBLING BY A STUPID, BRAINLESS MORON.]

"...that they don't agree with due to radical elements within the organization. [OH RIGHT--LIKE WHAT "RADICAL ELEMENTS"?]

"When they [THIS IS LOOSE-REFERENCE PRONOUN, TYPICAL OF IGNORANT WHITE NIGGERS.]

"...hear one person with off the wall Jew coments (Jews controling the world as they are so much smarter than everyone [WELL, JEWS RUN THE FRACTIONAL-RESERVE COUNTERFEIT CONSPIRACIES, THEY CONTROL THE CORPORATE MASS-MEDIA, ETC., SO WHETHER THEY'RE "SMARTER" IS CONTROVERSY ON ITS OWN. AND NOTE THIS IS ALL JUST BABBLING BY THIS STUPID, PRESUMPTUOUS, IGNORANT WHITE NIGGER, DON'T FORGET]

"...that they have tricked everyone, Halocost didn't happen [WELL AGAIN, THIS REQUIRES DEFINITION IN FIRST PLACE, WHICH WHITE NIGGER DOESN'T SUPPLY, GIVING NO REFERENCES, AS USUAL.]

"...when there are thousands of pictures and video of Jews starving to death, [ACTUALLY, THERE ARE NO PICTURES OR VIDEOS, AND IF THERE ARE, WHITE NIGGER SHOULD GIVE REFERENCES, BUT AS USUAL HE'S JUST STUPID AND PRESUMPTUOUS. NOTE FURTHER, STUPID WHITE NIGGER JUST PUSHES THE JEWS' OWN PROPAGANDA, PRESUMPTUOUSLY PRETENDING HE KNOWS ALL ABOUT IT--BETTER THAN OTHERS.]

"...even if they didn't cook them, extreme abuse within the prison camps was obvious.) ["OBVIOUS" ONLY TO A GROSSLY PRESUMPTUOUS, STUPID, IGNORANT WHITE NIGGER WHO GIVES NO REFERENCES OR CITATIONS.]

"This kind of stuff [WHAT "KIND OF STUFF"?--WHITE NIGGER IS JUST TOO PRESUMPTUOUS.]

"...throws off the average Joe [THIS PRESUMES IGNORANT WHITE NIGGER KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT "AVERAGE JOE."]

"...and believe me, [NO, "HOOCH," NO ONE WOULD OR SHOULD "BELIEVE" AN IGNORANT, BRAINLESS, PRESUMPTUOUS WHITE NIGGER LIKE U.]

"...it doesn't matter what group said it ["IT"?--LIKE WHAT?--STUPID WHITE NIGGER GETS ALL TANGLED WITH HIS LOOSE-REFERENCE PRONOUNS, AGAIN.]

"...or if even one person said it. When no one will disagree with them than it ["IT"?--AGAIN--WHAT IS THE STUPID, WHITE NIGGER TALKING ABOUT?]

"...is logical to the reader or viewer that everyone agrees. [THIS PASSAGE DOESN'T EVEN MAKE ANY SENSE.]

"Saluting Hitler or the strange love ["STRANGE"--WHY IS IT STRANGE TO REVERE A HERO?--STUPID, IGNORANT, PRESUMPTUOUS WHITE NIGGER DOESN'T SAY. AND NOTE IT'S YET MORE SYMPATHY FOR JEW PROPAGANDA.]

"...for him to the degree of wearing a old fashioned military costume with the high boots and swastikas is another factor that drives people away from the non-movement. [ACTUALLY, IT MAY DRIVE SOME PEOPLE AWAY, BUT WHO NEEDS THEM, ANYWAY? SURELY NOT ALL ARE DRIVEN AWAY, AND THE ONES WHO AREN'T MAY BE THE BEST KIND TO HAVE. THIS IS JUST MORE PRESUMPTUOUS, BRAINLESS PONTIFICATION FROM THE IGNORANT WHITE NIGGER PRETENDING HE KNOWS ANYTHING.]

"I must say that doing this [YET ANOTHER LOOSE-REFERENCE PRONOUN BY STUPID, PRESUMPTUOUS WHITE NIGGER.]

"...does make them stand out but the problem is it [STUPID WHITE NIGGERS ARE TYPICALLY LIBERAL WITH ALL THE LOOSE-REFERENCE PRONOUNS, NOTE.]

"...makes them stand out in a bad way where they are looked at as fools by most. [WELL, THIS IS JUST MORE OPINION BY THE PRESUMPTUOUS WHITE NIGGER WHO TYPICALLY GIVES NO REASONING OR REFERENCES TO EXPLAIN HOW HE KNOWS HOW "MOST" THINK.]

""""At times, they've considered WN Christians just as much of an enemy of the race as non-Whites and Jews."""

"I would have to agree ["AGREE"?--WITH WHAT, EXACTLY.]

"...here to some degree but wouldn't say that every WN Christian is doing harm. If every WN Christian was mentally unstable like one in particular I know ["HOOCH," PROBLEM IS UR "KNOWLEDGE" IS FAR TOO PRESUMPTUOUS AND BUILT UPON IGNORANCE AND WISHFUL THINKING.]

"...of than the harm is great to a permanent "brand" damaging degree. [MORE PRESUMPTUOUS, BRAINLESS BABBLE FM IGNORANT WHITE NIGGER.]

"Therefore, an enemy of the movement and the race it supports. [THIS SENTENCE DOESN'T MAKE TOO GREAT SENSE--TYPICAL.]

""""Apolo - The other problem is creators are against all other races (if I'm understanding correctly)--they should only be against anti-whites, which then means Jews and Jews' paid suck-alongs."""

""Hate the Jew and love thy negro as they are not a paid "suck-along" of the Jew monster ;-)" [OKAY, WHATEVER, U STUPID WHITE NIGGER MORON. U'RE ENTITLED TO UR OPINION, SURELY. BUT THEN SO AM I. THANKS FOR GIVING OPPORTUNITY TO HEAP SCORN AND ABUSE UPON U.]

5:01 AM

Hooch said...

"""Anonymous said...Hey Hooch, you're a moron. """

Ohhh my, I struck a nerve with this person who wishes to conceal his identity. I would be willing to bet that you either worship Hitler or you are one of those fools that wears the Halloween costumes at a rally.

"""[Comments by Apollonian, in below text fm "Hooch," capped, bracketed. A.]"""

Thanks for the clarification here in case anyone wouldn't be able to figure it out.

""""The White Nationalist Community is very small. [THIS IS TYPICAL OF "HOOCH"--HE GIVES NO CITATIONS OR REFERENCES, PRETENDING IN HIS GROSS, CRUDE IGNORANCE HE'S SOME KIND OF AUTHORITY WHO KNOWS ANYTHING. "HOOCH" JUST GIVES NO INDICATION WHY PEOPLE SHOULD LISTEN TO HIM.]""""

There are 300 million people in the United States and I would be willing to bet there are no more than a couple thousand White Nationalists. This is a logical determination considering first of all that we have a negro president and second a scan of the approximate number of people who blog at various white supremacist forums. Now compare that to republican blogs or conservative republican blogs or democrat blogs, or health care blogs, or credit repair blogs, etc.

It's called deductive logic which is not based on actual numbers jackass. It's more hypothetical or theoretical.

""""...that the path that has been taken for the past 10 years in the movement has done nothing but harm it. [RIGHT--LIKE HOW?--WHAT IS THIS IDIOTIC WHITE NIGGER EVEN TALKING ABOUT?]"""

Why is it Apolo that this guy a few threads ago told you to go back to your trailer? Now are you starting to understand the brand that has been developed by the movement and Jerry Springer specials?

"""Numbers decrease every year. [AGAIN--WHAT "NUMBERS"?--IS THERE A REFERENCE?--STUPID, PRESUMPTUOUS, IDIOTIC WHITE NIGGER IS JUST BABBLING TO HIMSELF.]"""

10 years ago a nigger never would have become the president. Thoughts have obviously changed about that today even with everything the NON-movement has tried to do. The Jews won, the movement lost. No need to reinvent the wheel. Haven't you figured out yet that it is flat? It needs to be pumped back up with a new strategy, not the same old shit that obviously didn't work.

"""This year may show a small increase due to our new leader [WHAT NEW LEADER?]"""

Your nigger leader will drive a small number of additional people to the movement regardless of fixing the flat or not.

"""...the public lumps them all together without distinction as radicals [MORE STUPID PRESUMPTION FM THE IGNORANT WHITE NIGGER--IS IT THE "PUBLIC"--OR IS IT THE MEDIA, LIKE THE "JEWS-MEDIA"? IGNORANT WHITE NIGGER DOESN'T SAY--THAT'S BECAUSE HE DOESN'T KNOW. THIS IS ALL JUST STUPID BABBLING BY A STUPID, BRAINLESS MORON.]"""

The general public are like mindless sheep and baaa leeeeveee what they are told by the media. Whether the media said it or not is not the issue as they will do what they wish without regard to what you want Apolo. You will never stop that Apolo. The issue at hand is getting more people involved who HAVE been brainwashed by the media and I explained exactly what will run off potential new members that have any degree of intelligence.

"""...that they don't agree with due to radical elements within the organization. [OH RIGHT--LIKE WHAT "RADICAL ELEMENTS"?]"""

YOU!

""""...hear one person with off the wall Jew coments (Jews controling the world as they are so much smarter than everyone [WELL, JEWS RUN THE FRACTIONAL-RESERVE COUNTERFEIT CONSPIRACIES, THEY CONTROL THE CORPORATE MASS-MEDIA, ETC., SO WHETHER THEY'RE "SMARTER" IS CONTROVERSY ON ITS OWN...."""

Sorry Apolo but no one could come up with this masterminded conspiracy to the degree that you say and not be intellectually superior. So, if they have been so successful at pulling the wool over everyone's eyes than maybe you should take some lessons.

""""...when there are thousands of pictures and video of Jews starving to death, [ACTUALLY, THERE ARE NO PICTURES OR VIDEOS, AND IF THERE ARE, WHITE NIGGER SHOULD GIVE REFERENCES, BUT AS USUAL HE'S JUST STUPID AND PRESUMPTUOUS. NOTE FURTHER, STUPID WHITE NIGGER JUST PUSHES THE JEWS' OWN PROPAGANDA, PRESUMPTUOUSLY PRETENDING HE KNOWS ALL ABOUT IT--BETTER THAN OTHERS.]""""

Video tricks made them so skinny they are on the verge of death ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aaf-4aL9VE

Throwing their skinny bodies in ditches was also a fake, Those weren't real bodies or they already died from being too skinny, not from being starved to death.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7754363390655845791&ei=Y1ekSYy6OY2grwKxwM08&q=concentration+camps&hl=en

Trick videography
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2074187239501225850&ei=Y1ekSYy6OY2grwKxwM08&q=concentration+camps&hl=en

Hey, thats not a Jew
http://blingkits.com/DVD%20DVD/WWII%20Concentration%20Camps/Concentration%20Camps5.jpg

Jews on a sleepover. They posed for this conspiracy.
http://www.zebrabot.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/003-concentration-camp.jpg

They are really just relaxing there because they like being stacked on top of each other naked.
http://andrejkoymasky.com/mem/holocaust/04/corpses.jpg

Oh, those aren't jews, they really are muslims who have been persecuted for years by the evil jew monster.
http://www.sacred-destinations.com/austria/images/mauthausen/resized/ebensee-subcamp-5-7-45-usarchives-pd.jpg

Died of natural causes and chopped up to make economical use of space.
http://www.shamash.org/holocaust/photos/images/MedExp03.jpg

Ohhh, isn't that cute, they are going on a hay ride.
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/camps/images/corpse-laden-cart.jpg

Thats no Jew, their ears don't stick out.
http://www.calvin.edu/worship/stories/images/biblical_lament/Concentration%20camp%20survivors.jpg

Trick photography, they had photoshop back then and were able to skinny them all up. In reality they were fat as little jew pigs.
http://www.qualityinformationpublishers.com/historicalpictures/Nazi%20Concentration%20Camp6.GIF

Look, they are smiling. Proof that they really were happy.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/418MP5G2RVL.jpg

And it goes on and on.

""""...even if they didn't cook them, extreme abuse within the prison camps was obvious.) ["OBVIOUS" ONLY TO A GROSSLY PRESUMPTUOUS, STUPID, IGNORANT WHITE NIGGER WHO GIVES NO REFERENCES OR CITATIONS.]""""

""""Saluting Hitler or the strange love ["STRANGE"--WHY IS IT STRANGE TO REVERE A HERO?--STUPID, IGNORANT, PRESUMPTUOUS WHITE NIGGER DOESN'T SAY. AND NOTE IT'S YET MORE SYMPATHY FOR JEW PROPAGANDA.]""""

Yes, Hitler was a hero, LOL. The man who ejaculates while giving a speach is Apolo's hero. Borat is my hero, LOL.

""""...for him to the degree of wearing a old fashioned military costume with the high boots and swastikas is another factor that drives people away from the non-movement. [ACTUALLY, IT MAY DRIVE SOME PEOPLE AWAY, BUT WHO NEEDS THEM, ANYWAY? SURELY NOT ALL ARE DRIVEN AWAY, AND THE ONES WHO AREN'T MAY BE THE BEST KIND TO HAVE.""""

Sorry Apolo, the best ones to have are the stereotypical ignorant trailer trash.

""""...of than the harm is great to a permanent "brand" damaging degree. [MORE PRESUMPTUOUS, BRAINLESS BABBLE FM IGNORANT WHITE NIGGER.]""""

It is not presumptuous to say people such as yourself damage the overall brand to a degree that others would not want to be associated.

""""Therefore, an enemy of the movement and the race it supports. [THIS SENTENCE DOESN'T MAKE TOO GREAT SENSE--TYPICAL.]""""

Ok, since you can not understand the language you speak lets make it clear. Apolo, you are the one damaging the brand and you and those like you are the enemy of the movement.

"""Apolo's opinion - Hate the Jew and love thy negro as they are not a paid "suck-along" of the Jew monster ;-)"""

apollonian said...

"Hooch" Presents Jew Fake Photos, Asserting They're Genuine Evidence--Check His Reference Citations
(Apollonian, 24 Feb 09)

Excellent: "Hooch" is now giving us Jew sources for references for holohoax. I duly clicked some of ur reference videos/photos, "Hooch," u utterly brainless fool, and they WERE JEW FAKES, u poor, stupid, dumbass.

CONCLUSION: How stupid can u get? Way to go, stupid white nigger. Honest elections and death to the Fed.

Hooch said...

LoL, How did I previously predict that you would say they were Jew fakes. You see, you aren't more crazy than I thought. You are exactly as crazy as I thought.

apollonian said...

"Hooch" Attempts To Spin His "References"
(Apollonian, 24 Feb 09)

"Hooch," poor moron--anyone now can click ur "references" and see for themselves. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

Hooch said...

No one is spinning anything. They are all from different places.

As I said, I already knew exactly what you were going to say and that is the reason for my comments on all of the videos and photos.

You are a very predictable psychopath Apolo.

Anonymous said...

Get a life you two dumb fucks.

apollonian said...

"Hooch" The Jew, Pretends Holohoax Lies Are True
(Apollonian, 24 Feb 09)

"Hooch," u're either incredibly stupid, or u're simply a Jew urself, deliberately lying and attempting to . . . what?--persuade people holohoax is true?

Regardless, I must thank u for ur "references" which certainly prove u're a moron, first for presenting this as "evidence" and/or proof, and then for imagining it would go over and make impression, which only demonstrates u're Jew urself.

Who else but a Jew would (a) assert truth of holohoax, then (b) present this trash u give for "references" as proof?

CONCLUSION: U know "hooch," I think I've finally figured out what u really are--u're a mixed-race with Jew blood pretending u're white. What u've done is to expose urself most pathetically. U're just further proof people should avoid race-mixing; only half-assed puke like u is produced. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

Hooch said...

Go ahead and debunk the references, each video and photo. You have done nothing yet but claim that they are false. That they starved the actors to death prior to making the Jew conspiracy movies and photos.

Why do you keep talking about references anyways. Photos are photos and video footage is video footage no matter where they came from.

Watch the video, don't read anything and turn the sound down. That way you wont be influenced by the evil jew monster that is trying to trick you in a jew like way.

Anonymous said...

Hooch is clearly a Jew troll.

apollonian said...

What Is Hoochie Trying To Prove?
(Apollonian, 24 Feb 09)

Actually, this is good discussion regarding WHAT IS EVIDENCE AND PROOF--and what Hoochie really knows.

For example, the question regarding the photos, submitted by "Hooch," is exactly what they're supposed to prove. Hoochie typically can't say anything, playing coy, as he does, and indeed, the photos I saw fm Hooch's ref.s really prove nothing--they're photos--of something, but that's all, certainly not of any "holohoax."

So "Hooch" gives these idiotic "references" but what do they prove?--can "Hooch" say?--NO.

And when I ask "Hoochie" if he's asserting holohoax is true, note he doesn't give clear answer in his usual cowardly fashion. Indeed the indication is "Hooch" is veritably speaking for the Jews and their lies regarding holohoax.

CONCLUSION: So tell us Hoochie, the Jew--is holohoax true?--and just what is it u want to "prove" with ur brainless references, dumbass? Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

Hooch said...

"""the photos I saw fm Hooch's ref.s really prove nothing--they're photos--of something, but that's all, certainly not of any "holohoax.""""

Yea, they are photos of emaciated Jews being thrown into ditches, stacked on wagons and bunking together in little cubes because these are things the Jews like to do.

"""So "Hooch" gives these idiotic "references" but what do they prove?--can "Hooch" say?--NO."""

This shows how ignorant you are Apolo, You don't even believe photography and videography in your desperate attempt to conceal that the Jews were hated back then.

I bet next you will say that slavery did not happen in the United States. But guess what, I am willing to recognize that it in fact did happen and I also have the ability to say I don't owe any nigger anything for it as it had nothing to do with any nigger alive today or yesterday.

"""And when I ask "Hoochie" if he's asserting holohoax is true, note he doesn't give clear answer in his usual cowardly fashion."""

I don't recall you asking that and I never hide from saying anything. Why would I Apolo? I don't give a shit what you think so why would I try to dodge a question you supposedly asked?

I do think the "holohoax" did happen. I don't know the level of involvement that the Germans had in it as they weren't all in Germany. Germany did have its share though so it is clear that they had active participation.

Bill White once said that all of the death camps were in Poland and the Soviet Union but that is a bunch of crap.

Auschwitz Oswiecim, Poland (near Krakow)

Belzec Belzec, Poland

Bergen-Belsen near Hanover, Germany

Buchenwald Buchenwald, Germany (near Weimar)

Chelmno Chelmno, Poland

Dachau Dachau, Germany (near Munich)

Dora/Mittelbau near Nordhausen, Germany

Drancy Drancy, France (suburb of Paris)

Flossenbürg Flossenbürg, Germany (near Nuremberg)

Gross-Rosen near Wroclaw, Poland

Janowska L'viv, Ukraine

Kaiserwald/ Riga Meza-Park, Latvia (near Riga)

Koldichevo Baranovichi, Belarus

Majdanek Lublin, Poland

Mauthausen Mauthausen, Austria (near Linz)

Natzweiler/ Struthof Natzweiler, France (near Strasbourg)

Neuengamme Hamburg, Germany

Plaszow Krakow, Poland

Ravensbrück near Berlin, Germany

Sachsenhausen Berlin, Germany

Sered Sered, Slovakia (near Bratislava)

Sobibor Sobibor, Poland (near Lublin)

Stutthof near Danzig, Poland

Theresienstadt Terezin, Czech Republic (near Prague)

Treblinka Treblinka, Poland (near Warsaw)

Vaivara Estonia

Westerbork Westerbork, Netherlands

"""Indeed the indication is "Hooch" is veritably speaking for the Jews and their lies regarding holohoax."""

No one is speaking "for" the Jews. Just speaking the truth. As I said earlier, I don't give a shit about Jews either way.

apollonian said...

[Commentary on selected Hooch text for 5:20 am entry, below-copied, by Apollonian, capped, bracketed. A.}

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"Yea, they are photos of emaciated Jews being thrown into ditches, stacked on wagons and bunking together in little cubes because these are things the Jews like to do." ["HOOCH," FACT IS U DON'T KNOW WHO THOSE PEOPLE ARE IN "PHOTOS", AND U DON'T KNOW THE CIRCUMSTANCES EITHER, STUPID, IGNORANT, PRESUMPTUOUS WHITE NIGGER. GAD, BUT U ARE AN INCREDIBLE, BRAINLESS MORON. AND U IMAGINE OTHER WHITE PEOPLE ARE AS STUPID AS U.]

"This shows how ignorant you are Apolo, You don't even believe photography and videography in your desperate attempt to conceal that the Jews were hated back then." [JEWS ARE TALMUDIC MONSTERS WHO WERE ALWAYS HATED BY ALL INFORMED HUMANITY IN EVERY COUNTRY AND AT EVERY TIME. "BELIEVE PHOTOGRAPHY AND VIDEOGRAPHY"?--RIGHT, IGNORANT SCUM, U REALLY MAKE A LOT OF SENSE. LOOK DIPSHIT, I UNDERSTAND THOSE ARE PHOTOS AND VIDEOS, ETC., OKAY DUMBASS?--THE QUESTION IS WHAT THEY'RE REALLY ABOUT, AND WHAT ARE THE TRUE CIRCUMSTANCES, WHICH IGNORANT WHITE NIGGER LIKE U MERELY PRESUMES, STUPID, BRAINLESS MORON.]

"I do think the "holohoax" did happen. [FINALLY WHITE NIGGER ADMITS IT, MY ASKING AT 3:44 PM WHICH WHITE NIGGER IGNORED. BUT WHITE NIGGER DOESN'T GIVE ANY REFERENCES OR SAY EXACLTLY HOW HE CAME TO CONCLUSION.]

"I don't know [U ACTUALLY "KNOW" VERY LITTLE, AND U CAN'T FIGURE OUT U HAVE TO GIVE QUALITY, SUBSTANTIAL REFERENCES--WHICH U DON'T. AND QUALITY (AND LACK THEREOF) OF UR REFERENCES, LIKE PRESENTLY, REALLY DOES SHOW UR GROSS, PATHETIC INCOMPETENCE AND IGNORANCE.]

"...the level of involvement that the Germans had in it as they weren't all in Germany. [OF COURSE U DON'T KNOW--U DON'T KNOW ANYTHING, AND IF U DID, U'D BE ABLE TO SAY EXACTLY WHAT U KNOW AND HOW, GIVING REFERENCES, STUPID ASS, IGNORANT SCUM.]

"Germany did have its share ["SHARE" OF WHAT?--IGNORANT MORON.]

"...though so it is clear that they had active participation. [WHAT AN EXPEDIENT CONCLUSION MADE BY THE IGNORANT WHITE NIGGER--FIRST HE MAKES AN INCOMPETENT ASSERTION, AS JUST ABOVE, THEN HE FOLLOWS WITH HIS PRE-CONCEIVED LOGIC--HOW CLEVER OF THE MORON. BUT IF IT'S "CLEAR," AS U SAY--HOW IS IT CLEAR?--WHAT'S THE EVIDENCE, STUPID, BRAINLESS SHIT? DO U HAVE ANY REFERENCES?--WE SEE U REALLY DON'T, AS WE SEE THE QUALITY OF UR STUPIDITY PRESENTLY, U PATHETIC IDIOT.]

"Bill White [WHITE IS EDUCATED AND HAS SOME BRAINS AND CAN GIVE REFERENCES AND KNOWS NECESSITY AND SIGNIFICANCE OF REFERENCES AND PROOF; U SHOULD LISTEN TO BILL WHITE, DUMBASS, IGNORANT WHITE NIGGER.]

"...once said that all of the death camps were in Poland and the Soviet Union but that is a bunch of crap." [WELL DIPSHIT, U NEED TO SAY HOW/WHY, IGNORANT SCUM. "DEATH CAMPS" WOULD REFER TO PLACES WHERE DEATHS TOOK PLACE--NOT DELIBERATE EXTERMINATIONS, STUPID ASS.]

"No one is speaking "for" the Jews. [U'RE AN IDIOTIC, BRAINLESS LIAR, AS USUAL; U'RE SPEAKING FOR THE JEWS AND THEIR LIES AS TO THE HOLOHOAX, DUMBASS DIPSHIT--BUT THAT'S OKAY AS UR TYPICAL, IGNORANT, IDIOTIC INCOMPETENCE COMES OUT MOST FULLY, AND U THUS DEMONSTRATE THE USUAL INTELLIGENCE-LEVEL OF WHOEVER UPHOLDS HOLOHOAX LIES. ONLY SOMEONE PROFOUNDLY PREJUDICED AGAINST TRUTH AND WHITE PEOPLE WOULD MAINTAIN UR STUPID LIES, AND COULD POSSIBLY OVERLOOK THE OBVIOUS PROBLEMS WITH THE SO-CALLED "EVIDENCE" U ALLEGE, U UTTERLY SCUMMY PIECE-OF-SHIT.]

"Just speaking the truth. [YES, U SPEAK "TRUTH" ABOUT UR PATHETIC, INCOMPETENCE, PRESUMPTION, WISHFUL THINKING, AND STUPIDITY, THAT'S FOR SURE. U DON'T KNOW WHAT "TRUTH" IS--OTHERWISE U'D BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND U NEED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT UR "PHOTOS" ARE REALLY PHOTOS OF--BUT U RATHER JUST PRESUME UR FOREGONE JEW-FRIENDLY CONCLUSION AND INSIST WE MUST ALSO--U STINKING, SCUMMY SHIT.]

"As I said earlier, I don't give a shit about Jews either way." [WELL, IF U'RE "WHITE," AND IF U'RE "SYMPATHETIC" TO CHRISTIANITY, AS U ALLEGED, U'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PREJUDICED AGAINST JEWS, TALMUDISTS, THE ENEMIES OF HUMANITY. BUT OF COURSE U'RE NOT WHITE--U OBVIOUSLY HAVE SOME JEW BLOOD MIXED IN U, U FILTHY, STINKING, PUTRID, DIRTY SCUM. DEATH TO U, U PUKE.]

5:20 AM

Hooch said...

"""HOOCH," FACT IS U DON'T KNOW WHO THOSE PEOPLE ARE IN "PHOTOS", AND U DON'T KNOW THE CIRCUMSTANCES EITHER, STUPID, IGNORANT, PRESUMPTUOUS WHITE NIGGER. GAD, BUT U ARE AN INCREDIBLE, BRAINLESS MORON. AND U IMAGINE OTHER WHITE PEOPLE ARE AS STUPID AS U.]"""

It is incredibly ignorant on your part to think that the "photos" and "videos" are not from the "halihoax" and are from some other mass plan to emaciate the Jews, stack them on trailers and throw their starved to death bodies in mass graves.

"""WHAT THEY'RE REALLY ABOUT, AND WHAT ARE THE TRUE CIRCUMSTANCES,]"""

Ok, so you think that the circumstances were not as a result of then but another extermination. Regardless of what extermination they were from. It is obvious that the Jews were in a prison camp situation where they were being killed by starvation.

Don't tell me I didn't give you references either. I gave you every single prison camp over there during World War II

"Germany did have its share ["SHARE" OF WHAT?--IGNORANT MORON.]

If you looked below I gave you every single camp dumbass and many of them were in Germany.

"""AS U SAY--HOW IS IT CLEAR?--WHAT'S THE EVIDENCE, STUPID, BRAINLESS SHIT?"""

Every single prison camp and all of the photos and videos. Only a complete moron would not believe that the Jews were being killed in mass by some country.

"...once said that all of the death camps were in Poland and the Soviet Union but that is a bunch of crap." [WELL DIPSHIT, U NEED TO SAY HOW/WHY, IGNORANT SCUM. "DEATH CAMPS" WOULD REFER TO PLACES WHERE DEATHS TOOK PLACE--NOT DELIBERATE EXTERMINATIONS, STUPID ASS.]

Are you mentally retarded? I now know that this must be what your problem is. "NOT DELIBERATE EXTERMINATIONS" So starving people to death is not deliberate dumbass???

"""INTELLIGENCE-LEVEL OF WHOEVER UPHOLDS HOLOHOAX LIES."""

Actually, you are showing your intelligence right now.

"""WHITE PEOPLE WOULD MAINTAIN UR STUPID LIES"""

There you go again talking shit about White people you nigger lover.

"""U NEED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT UR "PHOTOS" ARE REALLY PHOTOS OF"""

They are photos of Jews being starved to death and thrown in ditches dumbass. Are you trying to tell me you can't tell a Jew when you see one?

"""As I said earlier, I don't give a shit about Jews either way." [WELL, IF U'RE "WHITE," AND IF U'RE "SYMPATHETIC" TO CHRISTIANITY, AS U ALLEGED, U'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PREJUDICED AGAINST JEWS"""

Wrong, Sympathetic does not mean that I believe what most Christians don't, that the Jews are the root of all evil.

Sympathetic doesn't mean that I believe anything that Christians do. Just that I have complete tolerance for their beliefs, they have the right to believe what they wish and I do not see their beliefs as being harmful in any way to society.

However, you are a loose canon as I have previously stated. You do not share the same beliefs that most Christians do.

apollonian said...

[Comments by Apollonian on selected text fm "Hooch" at 10:23 am, capped, bracketed. A.]

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"It is incredibly ignorant on your part to think that the "photos" and "videos" are not from the "halihoax" and are from some other mass plan to emaciate the Jews, stack them on trailers and throw their starved to death bodies in mass graves." [BUT FACT REMAINS U DON'T HAVE OR KNOW THE SOURCES OF THESE ITEMS, AND U DON'T KNOW THE CIRCUMSTANCES EITHER--IF U DID, U'D GIVE THEM. SO WHAT U DO THEN IS INSIST WHAT U BELIEVE IS THE FACT, AND THEN INSIST IF ANYONE DOESN'T AGREE THEN THEY'RE IGNORANT. THESE ARE JEW TACTICS. AND NOW WE SEE "HOOCH" THE JEW TAKING UP JEW LIES AND MAKING SAME IDIOTIC JEW ARGUMENTS. INDUCTIVE LOGIC THUS INDICATES U'RE A JEW, "HOOCHIE." AND NOW U HAVE TO STRUGGLE TO PROVE U'RE NOT JEW--WHICH U CAN'T DO EXCEPT TO INSIST U HATE NIGGERS AND I'M NIGGER-LOVER FOR NOT BEING AGAINST ALL NIGGERS, ETC.]

"Ok, so you think that the circumstances were not as a result of then but another extermination. Regardless of what extermination they were from. It is obvious that the Jews were in a prison camp situation where they were being killed by starvation." [STUPID WHITE NIGGER JEW, THERE WAS NO POLICY TO KILL JEWS--AND U CAN'T PROVE THERE WAS, THERE BEING NO DOCUMENTARY OR PHYSICAL EVIDENCE, INDEED ALL SUCH EVIDENCE INDICATING THERE WAS NO SUCH POLICY. ALL PEOPLE IN GERMANY AT END OF WAR WERE STARVING. JEW "HOOCH" JUST PUSHES JEW LIES ("HOLOHOAX") WITH JEW ARGUMENTS.]

"Don't tell me I didn't give you references either. I gave you every single prison camp over there during World War II" [U DON'T GIVE PERTINENT REFERENCES, STUPID ASS. ANY MORON CAN WRITE DOWN STUPID CRAP; IT DOESN'T MEAN THOSE ARE PERTINENT, SUBSTANTIAL REFERENCES, IGNORANT WHITE NIGGER WITH JEW BLOOD IN HIM.]

"Every single prison camp and all of the photos and videos. Only a complete moron would not believe that the Jews were being killed in mass by some country." [RIGHT, IGNORANT SCUM. UR FIRST SENTENCE ABOVE IS NOT A COMPLETE SENTENCE WITH SUBJECT AND VERB, IDIOT, SO U'RE NOT REALLY SAYING ANYTHING. UR SECOND SENTENCE IS JUST A JEW-SYMPATHETIC ASSERTION, AS JEWS WOULD INSIST, U HAVING NO EVIDENCE, AGAIN.]

"So starving people to death is not deliberate dumbass???" [THAT'S JUST THE PT. TO BE PROVEN--HOW DO U KNOW THEY WERE BEING DELIBERATELY STARVED TO DEATH?--SHIT-FOR-BRAINS?--HOW COULD U POSSIBLY KNOW? WOULDN'T U HAVE TO BE ABLE TO CONFIRM BY MEANS OF WRITTEN DOCUMENTATION?--IF NOT, HOW? IT ONLY GOES TO SHOW U'RE JEW, PUSHING JEW LIES, USING JEW ARGUMENTS AND METHODS, STUPID, BRAINLESS MORON.]

"They are photos of Jews being starved to death and thrown in ditches dumbass. Are you trying to tell me you can't tell a Jew when you see one?" [THIS IS INCREDIBLE--LOOK SHIT-FOR-BRAINS--MOST OFTEN WHEN I "SEE" SOMETHING, IMMEDIATELY THERE MAY BE SUSPICION, BUT THEN THERE'S GOT TO BE A WAY TO VERIFY--SO THAT THEN I CAN SAY IT IS PROVEN, THAT I "KNOW" FOR SURE. JUST HAVING TO EXPLAIN SUCH PROCESS OF VERIFYING IS PROOF ITSELF U ARE INCREDIBLY IGNORANT, BRAINLESS, SCUM, A WHITE NIGGER WITH JEW BLOOD IN HIM, PRETENDING HE'S WHITE. U'RE MOST PERFECT DEMONSTRATION WHY ONE SHOULD NOT MIX RACES.]

""""As I said earlier, I don't give a shit about Jews either way." [WELL, IF U'RE "WHITE," AND IF U'RE "SYMPATHETIC" TO CHRISTIANITY, AS U ALLEGED, U'RE SUPPOSED TO BE PREJUDICED AGAINST JEWS"""

"Wrong, Sympathetic does not mean that I believe what most Christians don't, that the Jews are the root of all evil." [THIS IS MOST ELOQUENT FM U, "HOOCH," WHICH I CAN LET STAND BY ITSELF. CHRISTIANS DON'T SAY JEWS ARE FUNDAMENTAL "ROOT" OF "EVIL," ETC., BUT THAT THEY'RE NATURAL ENEMIES OF CHRISTIANS. FURTHER, UR SENTENCE CONTAINS A DOUBLE NEGATIVE, IN UR TYPICAL PATHETIC IGNORANT WAY OF CONSTRUCTING UR LANGUAGE, POOR BASTARD. GAD, WHAT AN IDIOT U REALLY ARE--AND DON'T EVEN KNOW IT.]

"However, you are a loose canon as I have previously stated. You do not share the same beliefs that most Christians do." [BUT "HOOCH," U POOR FOOL, THIS INDICATES AND IMPLIES U KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CHRISTIANITY, WHICH I ASSURE U, U DON'T--CERTAINLY NOT VERY MUCH. I STUDY CHRISTIANITY, SO THERE MAY BE CHANCE I KNOW QUITE A GREAT DEAL MORE THAN SOME CHRISTIANS. REGARDLESS, THIS LAST STATEMENT OF URS IS EXCELLENT INDICATOR OF WHAT PRESUMPTUOUS (HENCE JEW-LIKE) MORON U ARE, WHICH ANYONE CAN SEE. FINALLY, NOTE I ADDRESSED UR TOPIC OF "LOOSE CANNON" AT PREVIOUS WhiteReference BLOG, "THREE WEEKS...," 11 FEB 09, COMMENTS SECTION, 11:31 AM.]

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"Hooch": A Truly Amazing Case-In-Point For Jew Psychopathology, Ever-Further Exposed, Pretending/Insisting He's "White"--While Insistently Pushing Holohoax Lie
(Apollonian, 25 Feb 09)

Here's excellent opportunity to comment upon "Hooch," our subject whom we have under the proverbial analytic "microscope," who evinces truly remarkable loyalty to Jews, pushing their lies, like "holohoax," and using and making their arguments, now pretending photographs prove a deliberate policy by WWII Germans of "starving" Jews, this as part of deliberate "extermination." Note the dogged, psychopathic insistence of our "Hooch" subject.

And note this is absolutely amazing among patriots (or "nationalists")--is there ANYONE ELSE, ANYONE at all, who calls himself "patriot" or "nationalist" who yet insists upon holohoax lies?--I don't think there is ANYONE at all. Yet this "Hooch" idiot imagines he should be taken seriously by white people and patriots, like the readers of this WhiteReference blog.

And I do believe inductive evidence is thus ever-stronger that "Hooch" really does have Jew blood in him, this then explaining his loyalty to Jews and his Jew-like characteristics (esp. in his obsessive argumentation), and esp. in the way of his insistent, repeated presumption, insisting Jews are "white." (Obvious fact is only some Jews look even somewhat "white.")

"Hooch" then attempts to hide his Jew-ness (at least in his own imagination, evidently) and Jew sympathy by insisting, for example, mighty Apollonian is somehow not sufficiently anti-nigger.

So note then that's "Hooch's" "fig-leaf" of imagined disguise by which he wants to pretend he's "white"--his pretended anti-nigger posturing--this actually part of the Jew program to instigate race-war against other gentiles, thus diverting fm Jew problem.

Most interesting for myself, personally, is this amazing moronic white nigger (replete with Jew blood) now imagines he knows something about Christianity--by which he opines, in his typically coy manner ("Hooch," the Jew, thinks he's so clever and subtle--like a female), Apollonian lacks for sufficiency (evidently). So I'm not like "most [other] Christians"?--in what way, "Hoochie"?

So my conclusion, ever-evolving (see also extensive comments at 12 Dec 08 blog, "ANSWP Commander..."), founded upon observations fm blogging, is this "Hooch" cretin, in all his amazing presumption and ignorance, is, as I note above, mixed with some Jew-blood, but who wants to hide it, not admitting it, YET AT SAME TIME, pushing his Jew-sympathetic lies which are so prejudicial against white volk, esp. Germans--and this idiot white nigger (replete w. Jew blood in him, as noted) imagines he will get-away with this amazing outrage.

Note also "Hooch," above (1:58 pm), says mighty Apollonian is "predictable psychopath." But observe it is "Hooch" who continues to push these holohoax lies--AND YET PRETENDS WITH PSYCHOPATHIC INSISTENCE HE'S "WHITE" OR "WHITE PATRIOT," or whatever.

So I thus conclude, okay, maybe I might be psychopath--BUT "HOOCH" IS FAR, FAR MORE psychopathic, imagining he will get-away with this insanity, pushing holohoax, etc., as he does with such incredible, truly psychopathic insistence.

CONCLUSION: So I say, by all means, "Hooch," u amazing, brainless white nigger (w. Jew-blood in him), continue to babble on, thus persuading people u're such pure filth, pushing Jew lies and holohoax. I want to be sure to give u all the rope u want to take. Such is the tremendous virtue of blogging. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

Hooch said...

"""BUT FACT REMAINS U DON'T HAVE OR KNOW THE SOURCES OF THESE ITEMS, AND U DON'T KNOW THE CIRCUMSTANCES EITHER--IF U DID, U'D GIVE THEM. SO WHAT U DO THEN IS INSIST WHAT U BELIEVE IS THE FACT, AND THEN INSIST IF ANYONE DOESN'T AGREE THEN THEY'RE IGNORANT. THESE ARE JEW TACTICS."""

Again, as I said before, you are an idiot to believe that the photography was of some other mass extermination of jews where they stacked their emaciated bodies on trailers, threw them in ditches and dropped them in mass graves. I am also saying that any one else that believes that is also an idiot.

"""INSIST U HATE NIGGERS AND I'M NIGGER-LOVER FOR NOT BEING AGAINST ALL NIGGERS, ETC."""

Yes, you are a nigger lover and it is likely because you are a nigger.

"""THERE WAS NO POLICY TO KILL JEWS--AND U CAN'T PROVE THERE WAS, THERE BEING NO DOCUMENTARY OR PHYSICAL EVIDENCE, INDEED ALL SUCH EVIDENCE INDICATING THERE WAS NO SUCH POLICY. ALL PEOPLE IN GERMANY AT END OF WAR WERE STARVING. JEW "HOOCH" JUST PUSHES JEW LIES ("HOLOHOAX") WITH JEW ARGUMENTS.]"""

Towards the war's end, when the Allied bombing had cut Germany's supply lines, many Germans went hungry. It was at this time that the Germans then stopped being concerned about the camps' inmates (who before then were actually given larger rations than many Germans). However, after food became even more scarce, the Germans were more concerned about feeding themselves and their children at that time, who were also going hungry, than they were the camps' inmates, many of whom they perceived as having been responsible for Germany's fate. Hence, the Jews were intentionally starved with contributing factors being the economic situation. Rather than asking their allies for aid, they chose to allow the Jews to starve to death.

The Rations in Germany during WWII

Everyone was allowed 16 points per month to use on what ever food items they wished.
This was later increased to 20 points per month.
Of course the items purchased still had to be paid for.

In addition they had a daily pint of milk and a double supply of eggs as well as Cod Liver Oil and Orange Juice; although egg rationing varied from between one every two weeks during the Winter to 3 or 4 during the Spring and Summer months. Children under five were allowed half the normal meat ration and children between five and sixteen who held blue ration books were allowed fruit, a full meat ration and half a pint of milk per day.

If the Jews had this little amount of food they would have not died in masses. I can understand the Germans wanting to feed their own first as I would do the same but they could have let the Jews go instead of starving them to death and let them fend for themselves or leave the country to find food.

"""U DON'T GIVE PERTINENT REFERENCES, STUPID ASS. ANY MORON CAN WRITE DOWN STUPID CRAP; IT DOESN'T MEAN THOSE ARE PERTINENT, SUBSTANTIAL REFERENCES, IGNORANT WHITE NIGGER WITH JEW BLOOD IN HIM. """

Ohh, sorry, I should have given you references from a white supremest web site and then they definitely wouldn't have been biased... Jackass.

"""I ADDRESSED UR TOPIC OF "LOOSE CANNON" AT PREVIOUS WhiteReference BLOG"""

And I agreed that you were decremental to the movement. Those like yourself are the reason that the movement is almost non existent.

"""is there ANYONE ELSE, ANYONE at all, who calls himself "patriot" or "nationalist" who yet insists upon holohoax lies?--I don't think there is ANYONE at all."""

I am not a white nationalist but am an American Nationalist.

"""So note then that's "Hooch's" "fig-leaf" of imagined disguise by which he wants to pretend he's "white"--his pretended anti-nigger posturing--this actually part of the Jew program to instigate race-war against other gentiles, thus diverting fm Jew problem."""

You are completely insane.

"""Jew-sympathetic lies which are so prejudicial against white volk, esp. Germans--and this idiot white nigger"""

I am a German, niggerboy.

apollonian said...

[Commentary by Apollonian in selected quoted text posted at 4:35 am, by "Hooch," capped, bracketed. A.]

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"Again, as I said before, you are an idiot to believe [I DON'T "BELIEVE" ANYTHING WITHOUT PROOF--CERTAINLY NOT JEW LIES PUSHED BY A JEW-FRIENDLY PUNK AND LIAR LIKE URSELF WHO SO GROSSLY FAILS TO SUBSTANTIATE SOURCES.]

"...that the photography was [PT. IS U DON'T KNOW THE EXACT SOURCE OF "PHOTOGRAPHY," AND U DON'T KNOW THE CIRCUMSTANCES, AS U ESSENTIALLY ADMIT.]

"...of some other mass extermination of jews [THERE NEVER WAS ANY "MASS EXTERMINATION" OF JEWS, EVER--THOUGH THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN, AND U HAVE NO PROOF. UR MATERIAL CONSISTING OF VIDEOS AND PHOTOS ARE EXTREMELY DUBIOUS AT BEST--ANYONE IMPARTIAL WOULD AGREE. U'RE JUST A JEW-FRIENDLY LIAR, PROBABLY A JEW URSELF, PUSHING JEW LIES AND HOLOHOAX, THAT'S ALL, AND U DO IT IN JEW-FASHION.]

"...where they stacked their emaciated bodies on trailers, threw them in ditches and dropped them in mass graves. [RIGHT, STOCK JEW LIES, UTTERLY UN-PROVEN, WHICH "HOOCH" JUST REPEATS LIKE STUPID JEW PARROT, WITH ATTEMPTED INTIMIDATION OF ANY DOUBTING THERETO.]

"I am also saying that any one else that believes that is also an idiot. [RIGHT, JUST LIKE ALL JEWS LIKE U, "HOOCH." DO U IMAGINE WE HAVEN'T HRD IT ALL BEFORE, DUMBASS? U'RE JUST A JEW PUSHING JEW LIES--IT'S VERY SIMPLE.]

"...
"If the Jews had this little amount of food they would have not died in masses. [U GIVE NO CITATIONS OR REFERENCES FOR UR BABBLING. AS I UNDERSTAND, GERMANS NEEDED THE KIKES FOR WAR-PRODUCTION, SO KIKES HAD TO BE FED.]

"I can understand the Germans wanting to feed their own first as I would do the same but they could have let the Jews go [HOW MIGHTY-WHITE OF U, SCUMMY JEW, BUT AS I SAID, GERMANS CONTINUED TO FIGHT AND NEEDED JEWS' LABOR, AS I UNDERSTAND, SO JEWS WERE FED BEST GERMANS COULD DO; FURTHER U GIVE NO REF.S OR CITATIONS, AND IGNORANT AS U OBVIOUSLY ARE, NO ONE SHOULD OTHERWISE TAKE UR UN-INFORMED WORD FOR THINGS, SCUMMY JEW.]

"...instead of starving them to death [AGAIN, U DON'T KNOW THIS, AND U GIVE NO REF.S OR CITATIONS--U'RE JUST IGNORANT SCUM BABBLING.]

"...and let them fend for themselves [AS I UNDERSTAND THE KIKES DIDN'T WANT TO BE RELEASED TO THE RUSKIES AND RATHER PREFERRED TO FOLLOW THE GERMANS. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO LET JEWS GO OFF AND "FEND" FOR THEMSELVES, KNOWING MURDERING JEWS.]

"...or leave the country to find food. [ONLY THING TO BE DONE WOULD HAVE BEEN TO RELEASE THEM TO RUSKIES WHO SURELY DIDN'T WANT THEM. ANYWAY, U'RE JUST BABBLING; NO ONE CARES WHAT AN IDIOT LIKE U THINKS; U MUST PROVIDE SOURCES, REF.S, AND CITATIONS, THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT.]

"Ohh, sorry, I should have given you references from a white supremest web site and then they definitely wouldn't have been biased... Jackass. [THIS IS INTERESTING PASSAGE FM "HOOCH," THE JEW, WHO SIMPLY WANTS TO HIDE FACT HE HAS NO LEGITIMATE SOURCES OR REFERENCES. THERE ARE NO "WHITE SUPREMACIST" SITES I KNOW OF WHICH AREN'T EXTREMELY ACCURATE AND PAINSTAKING FOR VERCITY WHEN THEY MAKE EFFORT. BUT IT GOES TO SHOW, "HOOCH" IS NOT COMFORTABLE WITH (REAL) WHITE PEOPLE, AND THAT'S WHY HE SPOUTS HIS JEW LIES IN HIS JEW MANNER, PSYCHOPATHICALLY OBSESSIVE, INSISTENT, AND REPEATED. HOOCH IS A JEW.]

"I am a German, niggerboy." [I'D SAY U MAY BE PART "GERMAN," BUT U'RE ALSO SURELY JEW. FOR NOTE JEWS ARE NOTORIOUS LIARS AND WILL CALL THEMSELVES "GERMANS," OR "WHITE" OR WHATEVER, ALWAYS TRYING TO HIDE FACT THEY'RE JEWS WITH JEW BLOOD--LIKE "HOOCH." CONSIDER THIS PIECE-OF-SHIT LIKE "HOOCH" SLANDERING GERMANS, ASSERTING THE HOLOHOAX AS HE DOES. WOULD A REAL GERMAN, A REAL WHITE MAN LIE LIKE HOOCH OBVIOUSLY DOES? NOTE "HOOCH" PUSHES JEW HOLOHOAX LIES, SAYS JEWS ARE "WHITE," AND DOES THIS ALL IN TYPICAL JEW OBSESSIONATE, INSISTENT FASHION, IN PREJUDICE AGAINST THE NOBLE GERMAN PEOPLE--HOW COULD "HOOCH" NOT BE JEW? AND OBSERVE AGAIN HOW "HOOCH" WANTS, LIKE JEW, TO INSTIGATE RACE WAR AMONG GENTILES, DIVERTING FM JEW PROBLEM. THE INDUCTIVE LOGIC THUS EMINENTLY INDICATES "HOOCH" IS JEW TO THE PT. "HOOCH" MUST PROVE HE ISN'T. SO KEEP TALKING, "HOOCH."]

Hooch said...

"""I DON'T "BELIEVE" ANYTHING WITHOUT PROOF--"""

Ok, if you don't believe anything without proof than you are not a Christian as there is no proof that God had anything to do with the bible.

Also, you believe that the jew mass grave pictures I gave you are not proof of jew mass extermination so give me this proof that lead you to believe this.

"""PT. IS U DON'T KNOW THE EXACT SOURCE OF "PHOTOGRAPHY," AND U DON'T KNOW THE CIRCUMSTANCES, AS U ESSENTIALLY ADMIT."""

As I said before, you "believe" that this is not a mass extermination of the Jews and you also said that you don't 'believe" anything without proof so give me the proof that it isn't you fool.

"""THERE NEVER WAS ANY "MASS EXTERMINATION" OF JEWS""""

Ok, give me the proof that you have that made you believe that there was never a mass killing of the Jews by starvation.

"""GERMANS NEEDED THE KIKES FOR WAR-PRODUCTION, SO KIKES HAD TO BE FED."""

They sure look like they were fed and there was no other "hidden" extermination of the Jews that those photos and video were taken o
of.

"""AS I UNDERSTAND THE KIKES DIDN'T WANT TO BE RELEASED TO THE RUSKIES AND RATHER PREFERRED TO FOLLOW THE GERMANS."""

Ok, so they wanted to stay in their prison camps and be killed via starvation. That makes a lot of since dumbass.

"""ONLY THING TO BE DONE WOULD HAVE BEEN TO RELEASE THEM TO RUSKIES WHO SURELY DIDN'T WANT THEM."""

So the Jews felt they were better off to just die of starvation and they would have rather done that than to be let go and walk if necessary to another country. Also, there are many other countries around Germany than Russia dumbfuck.


"""Ohh, sorry, I should have given you references from a white supremest web site and then they definitely wouldn't have been biased... Jackass. [THIS IS INTERESTING PASSAGE FM "HOOCH," THE JEW, WHO SIMPLY WANTS TO HIDE FACT HE HAS NO LEGITIMATE SOURCES OR REFERENCES. THERE ARE NO "WHITE SUPREMACIST" SITES I KNOW OF WHICH AREN'T EXTREMELY ACCURATE AND PAINSTAKING FOR VERCITY WHEN THEY MAKE EFFORT. BUT IT GOES TO SHOW, "HOOCH" IS NOT COMFORTABLE WITH (REAL) WHITE PEOPLE, AND THAT'S WHY HE SPOUTS HIS JEW LIES IN HIS JEW MANNER, PSYCHOPATHICALLY OBSESSIVE, INSISTENT, AND REPEATED. HOOCH IS A JEW.]"""

There we go, Apolo just answered the question. The references must come from a white supremacist web site. You are a complete idiot!

"""I'D SAY U MAY BE PART "GERMAN," BUT U'RE ALSO SURELY JEW. FOR NOTE JEWS ARE NOTORIOUS LIARS AND WILL CALL THEMSELVES "GERMANS," OR "WHITE" OR WHATEVER, ALWAYS TRYING TO HIDE FACT THEY'RE JEWS WITH JEW BLOOD--LIKE "HOOCH." CONSIDER THIS PIECE-OF-SHIT LIKE "HOOCH" SLANDERING GERMANS, ASSERTING THE HOLOHOAX AS HE DOES. WOULD A REAL GERMAN, A REAL WHITE MAN LIE LIKE HOOCH OBVIOUSLY DOES? NOTE "HOOCH" PUSHES JEW HOLOHOAX LIES, SAYS JEWS ARE "WHITE," AND DOES THIS ALL IN TYPICAL JEW OBSESSIONATE, INSISTENT FASHION, IN PREJUDICE AGAINST THE NOBLE GERMAN PEOPLE--HOW COULD "HOOCH" NOT BE JEW? AND OBSERVE AGAIN HOW "HOOCH" WANTS, LIKE JEW, TO INSTIGATE RACE WAR AMONG GENTILES, DIVERTING FM JEW PROBLEM. THE INDUCTIVE LOGIC THUS EMINENTLY INDICATES "HOOCH" IS JEW TO THE PT. "HOOCH" MUST PROVE HE ISN'T. SO KEEP TALKING, "HOOCH.""""

Yes, you are right Apolo, You finally figured it all out. It's all a big conspiracy and I am really a Jew that is trying to trick you into thinking that I am German.

apollonian said...

[Commentary by Apollonian, in below-copied selected quotes by "Hooch" at 9:05 am, capped, bracketed. A.]

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"Ok, if you don't believe anything without proof than you are not a Christian as there is no proof that God had anything to do with the bible." [THERE'S NO PROOF CHRIST DIDN'T EXIST EITHER. THUS I FOLLOW CHRISTIAN "WAY" OF REVERENCE FOR TRUTH AND HONESTY REGARDLESS.]

"Also, you believe that the jew mass grave pictures [THERE IS NO "JEW MASS GRAVE," AS THERE IS NO PROOF. SO THE PICTURES ARE JUST PICTURES OF WHATEVER--IT ISN'T TOO CLEAR WHAT IT'S PICTURE OF.]

"...I gave you are not proof [IF "PICTURES" ARE "PROOF," THEN WE NEED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHO TOOK PICTURES, WHEN, AND UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES.]

"...of jew mass extermination so give me this proof that lead you to believe this." [AGAIN, THERE'S NO PROOF; THE ONLY PROOF WE HAVE IS JEWS ARE LYING AS USUAL. CK THE BOOK BY JEW, NORMAN FINKELSTEIN, "THE HOLOCAUST INDUSTRY," IN WHICH HE DETAILS NUMEROUS JEW LIES AND FRAUDS ABOUT HOLOHOAX. THE ONLY "PROOF" WE HAVE IS OF DELIBERATE JEW LIES AND FRAUDS REGARDING HOLOHOAX LIES AND FRAUDS. HOLOHOAX IS LIES PUSHED BY JEW LIARS; U PUSH HOLOHOAX LIES, HENCE U'RE A JEW LIAR, "HOOCH"--AND NOW U NEED TO PROVE U'RE NOT JEW LIAR.]

"As I said before, you "believe" that this is not a mass extermination of the Jews [RIGHT, THERE'S NO PROOF, AND I DON'T ACCEPT UR UN-SUBSTANTIATED, SO-CALLED "EVIDENCE" AS PROOF, AS U CANNOT DEMONSTRATE EXACT CIRCUMSTANCES, ETC., U JUST ASSERTING AND LYING, LIKE TYPICAL JEW.]

"...and you also said that you don't 'believe" anything without proof so give me the proof that it isn't you fool." [LACK OF PROOF IS EVIDENCE OF LACK OF PROOF, HENCE THAT UR ASSERTION IS USUAL JEW LIE OF JEW LIAR, MORON.]

"Ok, give me the proof that you have that made you believe that there was never a mass killing of the Jews by starvation." [SIMPLE FACT THERE'S NO PROOF FOR JEW LIES, IS PROOF JEWS ARE LIARS, DUMBASS.]

"Ok, so they wanted to stay in their prison camps and be killed via starvation. That makes a lot of since dumbass." [ONLY FEW JEWS DIED, AS I UNDERSTAND, BY DISEASE LIKE TYPHUS. U'RE THE IDIOT JEW LIAR, "HOOCH." IT'S UR JEW LIES THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE, AND THAT'S NOT MY FAULT, PUKE.]

"So the Jews felt they were better off to just die of starvation [AGAIN, LIKE TYPICAL PSYCHOPATH, U'RE INSISTING UPON UR IDIOT LIES. FACT REMAINS JEWS ELECTED TO STAY W. GERMANS, AS THE EVIDENCE INDICATES, RATHER THAN GO TO RUSKIES.]

"...and they would have rather done that than to be let go and walk if necessary to another country. Also, there are many other countries around Germany than Russia dumbfuck." [THERE WERE ONLY TWO BASIC MILITARY FORCES, GERMANS, AND RUSKIES ON EASTERN FRONT, DUMBASS.]

"There we go, Apolo just answered the question. The references must come from a white supremacist web site. You are a complete idiot!" [REFERENCES GOTTA COME FM SOMEWHERE, "HOOCH," THE JEW. AND REMEMBER THOSE REFERENCES HAVE TO BE SUBSTANTIAL. "WHITE SUPREMACIST" WEBSITES ARE MORE FAR MORE HONEST AND SUBSTANTIAL THAN A LIAR LIKE U, "HOOCH," THE JEW.]

"Yes, you are right Apolo, You finally figured it all out. It's all a big conspiracy and I am really a Jew that is trying to trick you into thinking that I am German." [U ADMIT IT NOW URSELF, PLAYING MOCK-SARCASTIC; STILL, IT'S WHAT THE INDUCTIVE EVIDENCE LEADS TO AND INDICATES, WHICH U'D HAVE TO DIS-PROVE. WHO ELSE BUT JEW PUSHES JEW LIES AND HOLOHOAX?--LIKE U.]

Hooch said...

"""Ok, if you don't believe anything without proof than you are not a Christian as there is no proof that God had anything to do with the bible." [THERE'S NO PROOF CHRIST DIDN'T EXIST EITHER. THUS I FOLLOW CHRISTIAN "WAY" OF REVERENCE FOR TRUTH AND HONESTY REGARDLESS.]"""

But, you just said """I DON'T "BELIEVE" ANYTHING WITHOUT PROOF--"""

Was that another lie Apolo??? Why do you speak of truth and honesty while in the process of continually lying?

"""Also, you believe that the jew mass grave pictures [THERE IS NO "JEW MASS GRAVE," AS THERE IS NO PROOF. SO THE PICTURES ARE JUST PICTURES OF WHATEVER--IT ISN'T TOO CLEAR WHAT IT'S PICTURE OF.]"""

It's pretty fucking clear jackass!

Stop evading my question fagot.

As I said before, you "believe" that this is not a mass extermination of the Jews and you also said that you don't 'believe" anything without proof so give me the proof that it isn't you fool.

"""...and you also said that you don't 'believe" anything without proof so give me the proof that it isn't you fool." [LACK OF PROOF IS EVIDENCE OF LACK OF PROOF, HENCE THAT UR ASSERTION IS USUAL JEW LIE OF JEW LIAR, MORON.]"""

Sorry fudgepacker but that is not evidence. The evidence is the photos and videos. You said that you don't "believe" anything without proof. The proof has been presented to you and you ask for names of the people who took the pictures of the Jews being dropped into a mass grave. You are an idiot and as I suspected that you have no proof that the photography was of some other mass extermination of the Jews due to starvation.

I have now come to the final conclusion that you are a complete idiot and anyone who believes that the photos were from some other mass killing of Jews is an idiot too.

You lie and you base your beliefs on absolutely no proof. You say you are a Christian but you really are a liar.

"ONLY FEW JEWS DIED"

Send your proof jackass.

"""JEWS ELECTED TO STAY W. GERMANS, AS THE EVIDENCE INDICATES, RATHER THAN GO TO RUSKIES."""

They did not commit suicide by starvation to stay with the Germans. They did not choose to stay with the Germans even though they stopped feeding them.

Send this proof jackass. And don't send white supremacist proof. Send credible references from people that do not want all Jews dead.

"""...and they would have rather done that than to be let go and walk if necessary to another country. Also, there are many other countries around Germany than Russia dumbfuck." [THERE WERE ONLY TWO BASIC MILITARY FORCES, GERMANS, AND RUSKIES ON EASTERN FRONT, DUMBASS.]"""

Wrong again dumbass. The axis forces consisted of Japan, Italy and Germany. Russia was in a nuetral state with an agreement to not engage in war with Germany but Germany betrayed that to become a world power and Russia ended up joining the allied forces as well. The Allied military forces consisted of Great Britain, France, South Africa, Poland, Greece and China. After the Japs attacked the US at Pearl Harbor in 1941 the US joined the war with Canada.

Now you can look at some geography and see where the Jews would have walked to if let free to fend for themselves.

You should know a little about history before you start shooting off our mouth because Russia and Germany were not the only military forces in that area.


"""There we go, Apolo just answered the question. The references must come from a white supremacist web site. You are a complete idiot!" [REFERENCES GOTTA COME FM SOMEWHERE, "HOOCH," THE JEW."""

You're an idiot to think a credible reference would be someone who wished them dead.

You now officially have been dragged out on the floor and exposed as a liar. It is now clear that your "beliefs" are not based on fact but rather what you have been told by other white supremacists that wish the death of Jews. Your ignorance is transparent to anyone with the intellectual capacity above a brick.

Anonymous said...

Creativity Movement Professional? I do not think so. The Creativity Movement is a gang of thugs that will accept your membership in their forum, demand donation after donation until you are burned out, then will discard you like a leaf in the wind.

If you want professional Creators, then try the Creativity Alliance at http://CreatorForum.net As long as you are White, they will accept you for who you are and not make any demands on your hip pocket, or order you to go and murder some innocent that just happened to cross a Creativity Movement thug on a bad day.

Hooch said...

Damn, they are like that? I'll steer clear.

apollonian said...

[Commentary by Apollonian upon below-copied selected quotes fm "Hooch," at 10:59 am, capped, bracketed. A.]

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"Sorry fudgepacker but that is not evidence. [I SAID UR "LACK OF EVIDENCE" IS PROOF ITSELF U'RE A LIAR PUSHING JEW LIES--I'D SAY THAT'S PRETTY CONCLUSIVE.]

"The evidence is the photos and videos. [QUESTION IS WHAT "PHOTOS AND VIDEO" IS "EVIDENCE" OF--ONE SEES SOME PEOPLE, BUT WHO ARE THEY?--WHERE ARE THEY?--WHEN IS IT ALL TAKING PLACE?--WHO TOOK THE PHOTOS?--AND WHO SHOT THE FILM?--NONE OF THIS IS CLEAR, AND U DON'T GIVE ANY INFO, AS U NEED TO DO IF U WANT TO PRETEND TO "PROVE." BESIDES, WE KNOW JEWS ARE LIARS WHO LIE ALL THE TIME, SO WHATEVER JEWS SAY IS MOST LIKELY TO BE LIE, GIVEN EVIDENCE. DON'T FORGET NORMAN FINKELSTEIN, AS I NOTED, A JEW HIMSELF, WHO WROTE BOOK, "THE HOLOCAUST INDUSTRY" DETAILING NUMEROUS JEW LIES AND FRAUDS. JEWS ARE PROVEN LIARS.]

"You said that you don't "believe" anything without proof. The proof ("PROOF" OF WHAT?]

"...has been presented to you [YES, I SAW PROOF OF UR JEW LIES, PROOF OF UNSUBSTANTIATED ALLEGATIONS. I SAW "PHOTOS," BUT AGAIN, IT ISN'T CLEAR WHAT PHOTOS ARE OF AND ABOUT, ETC.]

"...and you ask for names of the people who took the pictures of the Jews [HOW DO U KNOW THEY ARE JEWS?--DUMBASS.]

"...being dropped into a mass grave. [DON'T U THINK U OUGHT TO KNOW THE FULL CIRCUMSTANCES?--AND HOW DO U KNOW THOSE ARE "JEWS BEING DROPPED..."?--U DON'T--THE PHOTOS DON'T SAY "THIS IS A JEW," GIVING THE JEW'S NAME, DO THEY?]

You are an idiot [I'M JUST BEING HONEST AND SHOWING U DON'T KNOW WHAT U'RE TALKING ABOUT.]

"...and as I suspected that you have no proof that the photography [THERE'S NO CLEAR INFO REGARDING THE PHOTOS AT ALL, WHATSOEVER--U JUST SAY IT'S PHOTO OF "JEWS BEING EXTERMINATED," ETC., BUT U DON'T KNOW THAT, AND U DON'T SAY HOW U KNOW IT.]

"...was of some other mass extermination of the Jews due to starvation." [THERE WERE NO "MASS EXTERMINATIONS," AGAIN, MORON, AND U HAVE NO PROOF, NO DOCUMENTATION, NO BODIES OR EVIDENCE THEREOF, DIPSHIT. JEWS SAY "SIX MILLION" WERE "MURDERED," BUT THERE'S NOT A SINGLE BODY OR PHYSICAL EVIDENCE THEREOF?--DO U KNOW OF ANY?--OF COURSE NOT, U STUPID, BRAINLESS JEW LIAR. CK BradleySmithsBlog.blogspot.com--HE ASKS JEW LIARS LIKE URSELF TO GIVE HIM SIMPLY THE NAME OF "ONE PERSON" WITH PROOF THAT PERSON WAS EXTERMINATED--AND NO ONE EVER DOES OR HAS.]

"I have now come to the final conclusion that you are a complete idiot [NO THIS IS WHAT U JEWS CALL ANYONE WHO DOESN'T ACCEPT UR UN-SUBSTANTIATED ACCUSATIONS AGAINST GREAT AND NOBLE GERMAN HEROES.]

"...and anyone who believes that the photos were from some other mass killing of Jews is an idiot too." [I DIDN'T SAY "PHOTOS WERE FM SOME OTHER...," DUMBASS, I SAID THERE WERE NO "MASS-KILLINGS," PERIOD, AND THERE'S NO EVIDENCE, AND THOSE PHOTOS ARE NOT EVIDENCE OF ANYTHING BUT WHAT THEY'RE SPECIFICALLY ABOUT--WHICH WE DON'T KNOW, AS WE DON'T KNOW WHO TOOK THE PHOTOS, OR WHERE IT WAS TAKEN, OR WHEN--AND U DON'T AND CAN'T SAY, URSELF, DUMBASS.]

"You lie [NO I DON'T LIE AT ALL; I SPEAK TRUTH: U DON'T KNOW WHAT PHOTOS ARE OF OR ABOUT, AND U CAN'T PROVE UR STUPID JEW ACCUSATIONS, ETC.]

"...and you base your beliefs on absolutely no proof. [DIPSHIT, U'RE THE ONE WHO NEEDS TO PRESENT THE PROOF. U SAY PHOTO IS SUCH AND SUCH, BUT THERE'S NO PROOF PHOTO IS ABOUT WHAT U SAY IT IS ABOUT, DUMBASS MORON. U DON'T KNOW WHO TOOK THE PHOTO, WHO IS IN THE PHOTO, WHERE PHOTO WAS TAKEN, OR WHEN, STUPID MORON.]

"You say you are a Christian but you really are a liar. [NO ONE'S PERFECT. I CAN ONLY DO MY CHRISTIAN BEST, AND TRUTH IS U'RE JEW LIAR PUSHING JEW LIES, LIKE HOLOHOAX. WHO ELSE PUSHES JEW LIES AND HOLOHOAX?--ONLY JEWS AND FEW OF THEIR SUCK-ALONGS. THEREFORE U'RE A JEW OR SUCK-ALONG. Q.E.D.]

"Send your proof jackass." [I DON'T HAVE TO "SEND" ANYTHING; U'RE THE ONE MAKING ASSERTION ABOUT JEW HOLOHOAX AND LIES, MORON. ALL I SAY IS THERE'S NO PROOF. PROOF THERE'S NO PROOF IS SIMPLE FACT THERE'S NO PROOF; THEREFORE THERE'S NO PROOF--THAT'S LOGIC, MORON. U SAY UR PHOTOS ARE "PROOF" BUT U CAN'T SAY OF WHAT; U CAN'T SAY WHO TOOK PHOTOS, WHO IS IN PHOTOS, WHERE PHOTOS WERE TAKEN, OR WHEN, POOR, BRAINLESS IDIOT.]

"They did not commit suicide by starvation to stay with the Germans. [AS SO OFTEN, "HOOCHIE," U IGNORANT SCUM, U DON'T MAKE TOO MUCH SENSE.]

"They did not choose to stay with the Germans even though they stopped feeding them." [WHAT ARE U EVEN TALKING ABOUT, DUMBASS? U NEED CITATIONS AND REFERENCES, STUPID, IGNORANT MORON.]

"Send this proof jackass. [LIKE I TOLD U ABOVE, SHIT-HOLE, U'RE THE STUPID JEW PUNK, PUSHING JEW LIES, ASSERTING THE HOLOHOAX, DUMBASS; IT'S U WHO NEEDS TO "SEND PROOF."]

"And don't send white supremacist proof. [DIPSHIT, U'RE THE ONE WHO NEEDS TO "SEND PROOF," FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME; U'RE THE ONE LYING AND SLANDERING THE GERMANS, WITH UR JEW LIES, ACCUSING THEM OF MURDERING SCUMMY, FILTHY JEWS, STINKING, FILTHY, JEW LIAR.]

"Send credible references from people that do not want all Jews dead." [THE ONLY "CREDIBLE," DECENT PEOPLE ARE THOSE WHO WANT JEW MONSTERS AND ANTI-HUMANS DEAD.]

"Wrong again dumbass. The axis forces consisted of Japan, Italy and Germany. Russia was in a nuetral state with an agreement to not engage in war with Germany but Germany betrayed that [INTERESTING HOW U CHARACTERIZE GERMANY, U PRETENDING U'RE A "GERMAN." "HOOCH," U'RE NOT A GERMAN; U'RE A JEW; U SLANDER GERMANS, TELLING LIES ABOUT GERMANS, U SCUM. GERMANY WAS FIGHTING DESPERATELY AGAINST BRITAIN, THE USA HELPING BRITAIN ILLEGALLY. GERMANY REALIZED RUSSIA WAS GETTING READY TO ATTACK GERMANY, SO GERMANY SIMPLY STRUCK FIRST--THIS IS THE TRUTH.]

"...to become a world power [THIS IS AN IDIOTIC, JEW LIE. GERMANY WAS MERELY DEFENDING ITSELF. DON'T FORGET BRITAIN AND FRANCE DECLARED WAR ON GERMANY FIRST, DUMBASS.]

"...and Russia ended up joining the allied forces as well. [ACTUALLY RUSSIA DESPERATELY JOINED BRITAIN, WHICH DESPERATELY JOINED RUSSIA, THE USA HELPING BOTH NOW, LOOKING FOR WAY TO ENTER WAR.]

"The Allied military forces consisted of Great Britain, France, [FALSE; WHEN GERMANY ATTACKED RUSSIA, FRANCE HAD ALREADY BEEN DEFEATED AND SIGNED PEACE TREATY WITH GERMANY, STUPID, IGNORANT MORON.]

"...South Africa, Poland, [POLAND ALSO WAS DEFEATED.]

"...Greece and China. After the Japs attacked the US at Pearl Harbor in 1941 the US joined the war with Canada." [USA MERELY MADE IT OFFICIAL AFTER DOING BEST TO INSTIGATE AND START WAR.]

"Now you can look at some geography and see where the Jews would have walked to if let free to fend for themselves." [RIGHT, DUMBASS MORON; THERE WERE ONLY TWO BASIC FORCES IN AREA, GERMAN AND RUSSIAN, IDIOT. SO FAR AS I KNOW THE JEWS PREFERRED STAYING WITH GERMANS. IF U WANT TO MAINTAIN DIFFERENTLY, U NEED TO PROVIDE CITATIONS AND REFERENCES, DIPSHIT.]

"You should know a little about history [HIST. WAS MY MAJOR IN GRAD SCHOOL.]

"...before you start shooting off our mouth because Russia and Germany were not the only military forces in that area." [RIGHT, IGNORANT SCUM; SO (A) WHAT "AREA" ARE U TALKING ABOUT?--AND (B) WHAT OTHER FORCES WERE THERE?]

"You're an idiot to think a credible reference would be someone who wished them dead." ["HOOCHIE," ALL DECENT, RATIONAL HUMANS WISH JEWS, WHO ARE TALMUDIC MURDERERS, DEAD, DUMBASS. THE ONLY DECENT HUMAN BEINGS ARE THOSE WHO HATE JEWS AND WISH THEM DEAD.]

"You now officially have been dragged out on the floor and exposed as a liar. [FALSE; IT IS U WHO HAS BEEN EXPOSED AS JEW LIAR, PUSHING JEW LIES, LIKE HOLOHOAX, U UNABLE TO SUPPORT UR STUPID LIES, INCLUDING UR IDIOTIC "PHOTOS," WHICH PHOTOS U KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.]

"It is now clear that your "beliefs" are not based on fact [ALL I SAY IS U FAIL TO PROVE UR JEW HOLOHOAX LIES AND SLANDERS AGAINST NOBLE, MAGNIFICENT GERMAN PEOPLE, AND I DEMONSTRATE U KNOW NOTHING ABOUT "PHOTOS," ETC., WHICH U SAY ARE "PROOF." U DON'T KNOW WHO TOOK PHOTOS, WHO IS IN PHOTOS, WHEN OR WHERE PHOTOS WERE TAKEN, ETC. THESE ARE FACTS, UNDENIABLY, INDISPUTABLY.]

"...but rather what you have been told [NO, FACTS ARE FACTS, WHICH I UNDERSTAND. I WENT TO COLLEGE AND ACHIEVED UNDERGRAD DEGREE. I KNOW WHAT FACTS ARE, AND I KNOW U'RE JEW LIAR, PUSHING JEW LIES, LIKE HOLOHOAX, A NOTORIOUS JEW LIE.]

"...by other white supremacists that wish the death of Jews [ALL DECENT HUMANS, NOT ONLY "WHITE SUPREMACISTS," WISH DEATH OF JEWS.]

"Your ignorance [ABOUT WHAT?]

"...is transparent to anyone with the intellectual capacity above a brick." [RIGHTO, "HOOCH," THE JEW. BUT IF U SAY UR "PHOTOS" "PROVE" JEW HOLOHOAX LIES, U NEED TO SAY WHO TOOK PHOTOS, WHO IS IN PHOTOS, WHERE AND WHEN PHOTOS WERE TAKEN, ETC.--THESE AREN'T LIES, MERELY NECESSARY CRITERION FOR EVIDENCE, WHICH U, NOT ONLY CANNOT SUPPLY, BUT U DON'T EVEN SEEM TO UNDERSTAND, U UTTER, BRAINLESS, IGNORANT JEW LIAR. I THOUGHT U JEWS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE "SMART"?]

Hooch said...

I knew you would not prove a word of what you say. Your contrary beliefs are completely unsubstantiated!

Also, I am glad you have your undergraduate degree which has absolutely noting to do with what we are talking about. Maybe we can sit around one day and talk and I will tell you what is required for your masters.

Hooch said...

I knew you would not prove a word of what you say. Your contrary beliefs are completely unsubstantiated!

Also, I am glad you have your undergraduate degree which has absolutely noting to do with what we are talking about. Maybe we can sit around one day and talk and I will tell you what is required for your masters.

apollonian said...

Commentary by Apollonian in below text by "Hooch," capped, bracketed. A.]

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Hooch said...
"I knew you would not prove a word of what you say. [OBSERVE HOW THE STUPID JEW, "HOOCH," NOW TRIES TO TURN IT ABOUT--IT'S I NOW WHO HAS TO PROVE HOLOHOAX IS NOT TRUE--SUCH A CLEVER JEW WHO PROVIDES PHOTO AND VIDEO "EVIDENCE," ALSO "REFERENCES."]

"Your contrary beliefs are completely unsubstantiated! [U MEAN JEWS AREN'T LIARS?--AND HOLOHOAX ISN'T HUGE, GROSS LIE?]

"Also, I am glad you have your undergraduate degree which has absolutely noting to do with what we are talking about. [WELL, IT INDICATES I MIGHT KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT "FACTS" ARE, AND HOW STUPID JEWS, LIKE U, PUSHING HOLOHOAX, NEED TO SUBSTANTIATE UR CLAIMS WITH SUBSTANTIAL REFERENCES AND WHAT SUBSTANTIAL REFERENCES ENTAIL.]

"Maybe we can sit around one day and talk and I will tell you what is required for your masters." [RIGHT, STUPID JEW MORON.]

4:44 AM

Hooch said...

"""OBSERVE HOW THE STUPID JEW, "HOOCH," NOW TRIES TO TURN IT ABOUT--IT'S I NOW WHO HAS TO PROVE HOLOHOAX IS NOT TRUE--SUCH A CLEVER JEW WHO PROVIDES PHOTO AND VIDEO "EVIDENCE," ALSO "REFERENCES.""""

Yes, and the burden of proof lies on you due to the mountain of evidence to the contrary. You have shown every one here that your contrary beliefs are unsubstantiated.

"""WELL, IT INDICATES I MIGHT KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT "FACTS" ARE"""

Wow, I can't believe that this is where they taught you what a fact was. What kind of college did you attend? I don't recall any elementary discussion like this during either my undergrad or graduate studies.

apollonian said...

[Commentary by Apollonian, in below text by "Hooch" Jew, capped, bracketed. A.]

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"Yes, and the burden of proof lies on you due to the mountain of evidence ["MOUNTAIN OF EVIDENCE (FOR HOLOHOAX, PRESUMABLY)?--ck Codoh.com, Ihr.org, and ZundelSite.org--THERE IS NO EVIDENCE, DUMBASS--THERE'S NO DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE OR PHYSICAL EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER BUT FOR JEW LIES, AS I NOTED ABOVE FM NORMAN FINKELSTEIN. I NOTICE U DON'T DENY U'RE JEW. TELL US "HOOCH"--SIX MILLION KIKES DEAD, RIGHT?--AND WHERE ARE THE BODIES?--CAN U TELL US?]

"...to the contrary. You have shown every one here that your contrary beliefs are unsubstantiated. [RIGHT--BUT I SURE SMOKED U OUT, DIDN'T I?--"HOOCH" THE JEW.]

"Wow, I can't believe that this is where they taught you what a fact was. What kind of college did you attend? I don't recall any elementary discussion like this during either my undergrad or graduate studies." ["HOOCH," U TRULY ARE A JEW LYING LIAR, AREN'T U?--U MAY HAVE ATTENDED A FEW CLASSES, BUT U SURELY DIDN'T GRADUATE. U CAN HARDLY SPELL (AND U HAVE GALL TO CALL ME "NIGGER"). AND U COULD NEVER HAVE GONE TO GRAD SCHOOL WHERE EMPHASIS ON REFERENCES FOR RESEARCH IS HEAVY AND POINTED. AT THIS PT. U'RE JUST FUNNY.]

Hooch said...

"""TELL US "HOOCH"--SIX MILLION KIKES DEAD, RIGHT?--AND WHERE ARE THE BODIES?--CAN U TELL US?"""

I don't recall saying there were 6 million Jews killed. When did I say that fagot? I never told you that I believe everything said about the Holocaust. I never even told you that I believe most of what is said.

I know they lie just like your nigger lovers do about many aspects of slavery.

"""...to the contrary. You have shown every one here that your contrary beliefs are unsubstantiated. [RIGHT--BUT I SURE SMOKED U OUT, DIDN'T I?--"HOOCH" THE JEW.]"""

You may have in your own mind but you didn't smoke anyone out who thinks rationally and is not effected by psychosis. The fact is, your beliefs are unsubstantiated and there is nothing you can say to prove otherwise.

"""HOOCH," U TRULY ARE A JEW LYING LIAR, AREN'T U?--U MAY HAVE ATTENDED A FEW CLASSES, BUT U SURELY DIDN'T GRADUATE. U CAN HARDLY SPELL (AND U HAVE GALL TO CALL ME "NIGGER"). AND U COULD NEVER HAVE GONE TO GRAD SCHOOL WHERE EMPHASIS ON REFERENCES FOR RESEARCH IS HEAVY AND POINTED. AT THIS PT. U'RE JUST FUNNY."""

I am not extremely concerned with misspellings. It is clear that you aren't either. You also have a number of other gramatical issues such as starting a sentance with And saying things like a "Jew lying liar" Apolo, you are a chicken, chickens, chicken.

I started at Manchester Community College because I was a fuckup in High School and couldn't get into a 4yr school.

I then transferred to Eastern Connecticut in Willimantic CT and hated it there. It's a shitty town full of Porta Ricans. That school sucked. I stayed there for 2 yrs.

Then to the University of North Carolina at Wilmington which I loved. Beach school, lots of parties, my favorite place I have ever lived. I spent a final year there getting my bachelors and 2 more on my MBA.

Now I am in Roanoke Virginia and this city is a shithole in my opinion. It was nice at first but over the years things have slid backwards and there is now a 50% dropout rate in the highschools which has lead to some gang activity that the ignorant children like to be a part of. Obviously that has lead to a significantly higher crime rate.

This city has a lot of low paying jobs so, not all, but a great deal of the people are either low life whites or negroids. It is a common characteristic within the poor white neighborhoods here to love the negro and there are interracial couples all over the place. Many more here than any place I have lived. I think you would fit in well here Apolo and you would be perfectly accepted by the public since you probably like to eat nigger pussy.

apollonian said...

[Commentary by Apollonian, in below-copied selected quotes fm "Hooch" text at 12:04 pm, capped, bracketed. A.]

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"I don't recall saying there were 6 million Jews killed. When did I say that fagot? I never told you that I believe everything said about the Holocaust. I never even told you that I believe most of what is said. [PROBLEM IS HOW DOES ONE PROVE WHATEVER IT IS ONE SAYS ONE BELIEVES? HOW DO U KNOW JEWS WERE DELIBERATELY STARVED TO DEATH? IF THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO WERE DELIBERATELY MURDERED, WHERE ARE THE BODIES?--THE EVIDENCE? WAS ANY DELIBERATE POLICY OF "STARVATION" EVER PROVEN? U HAVE NOTHING, "HOOCH," THE JEW, ZILCH. IF U ADMIT JEWS LIE SOME, THEN HOW DO U KNOW ALL OF IT ISN'T LIES? HOW DO U KNOW WHAT'S TRUTH AND WHAT'S LIE? U DON'T SAY HOW U KNOW PHOTO IS AUTHENTIC RECORD OF WHAT U SAY IT IS.]

"You may have in your own mind but you didn't smoke anyone out who thinks rationally and is not effected by psychosis. The fact is, your beliefs are unsubstantiated and there is nothing you can say to prove otherwise." ["HOOCH," U PUSH JEW LIES, LIKE HOLOHOAX--WHO DOES THAT BUT JEW? U PUSH SUCH IDIOTIC LIES IN JEW FASHION AS WHEN U SAY ONE HAS TO PROVE JEW LIES ABOUT "EVIDENCE" ARE NOT TRUE. U CALL SEPARATISTS "SUPREMACISTS," MAKING USE OF JEW LYING TACTICS/MEASURES. HENCE U BUILD INDUCTIVE CASE AGAINST URSELF WHICH REQUIRES U PROVE U'RE NOT JEW. U SAY U'RE "GERMAN"--BUT THEN U SLANDER GERMANS, MAKING USE OF JEW LIES--HOW IS THIS NOT TYPICAL JEW BEHAVIOR?]

Hooch said...

"""HOW DO U KNOW JEWS WERE DELIBERATELY STARVED TO DEATH? IF THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO WERE DELIBERATELY MURDERED, WHERE ARE THE BODIES?--THE EVIDENCE? WAS ANY DELIBERATE POLICY OF "STARVATION" EVER PROVEN?"""

If you keep people captive in a prison camp due to war and you stop feeding them than you are deliberately murdering them even if it is because you couldn't afford to feed them because other options are to let them go and try to obtain food on their own. If they are let go and die due to their inability to get food than that is their problem and they are at that point more of a victim of the allied forces cutting off food supplies into the country.

"""THEN HOW DO U KNOW ALL OF IT ISN'T LIES? HOW DO U KNOW WHAT'S TRUTH AND WHAT'S LIE?"""

One will never know and can only base logical information on what little evidence there is. To completely deny the entire thing is foolish. That the Jews were starved, that they were thrown in mass graves, that they did have some poor living conditions, that they were chopped up in pieces. For what reasons I don't know if there is factual evidence as I believe the last of the holocaust Jews are dead.

Ok, now there are some basic portions of the Holocaust that logically happened. It was also during time of war and in my opinion war is a time to completely eliminate anyone who stands in your way of your objective.

Is it bad to kill inocent civilians, maybe, maybe not. When I see videos of Iran and hoards of "innocent civilians" chanting Kill America as far as the eye can see I don't get this warm and fuzzy feeling that they should stay alive if we were at war with them. Actually, I wouldn't be opposed to dropping a nuke on the place and killing every single one of them.

"""U DON'T SAY HOW U KNOW PHOTO IS AUTHENTIC RECORD OF WHAT U SAY IT IS."""

It is you that has the burden of proof. I would logically assume that there would be hoards of people out there that would expose actual proof if they were able to do so.

Some country recognizing the fact that the clothing was a style that was manufactured in their country, that people would point out the non Jew characteristics of the body or facial structure of the people and prove that it is the facial structure of people within their country, that the picture of the people in German uniforms were mass killing some other group of people, etc, etc, etc.

"""U CALL SEPARATISTS "SUPREMACISTS,""""

Did you ever think that I don't know what you like to call yourself? I can assure you that I am not part of a Jew conspiracy using tactics and measures in an attempt to pull the wool over your eyes too.

"""U SAY U'RE "GERMAN"--BUT THEN U SLANDER GERMANS, MAKING USE OF JEW LIES--HOW IS THIS NOT TYPICAL JEW BEHAVIOR?"""

When was the last time you saw a 6'3" Jew with the large body structure of a German?

My other heritage is Norwegian and a little English. Yes, I am a mutt.

apollonian said...

[Commentary by Apollonian, in below-copied selected text by "Hooch" at 3:14 pm, capped, bracketed. A.]

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"If you keep people captive in a prison camp due to war and you stop feeding [THIS NEVER HAPPENED, AND IF IT DID, U NEED TO SUPPLY PROOF, REFERENCES, ETC., WHICH U DON'T DO, MERELY PUSHING JEW LIES.]

"...them than you are deliberately murdering them even if it is because you couldn't afford to feed them because other options are to let them go [PROBLEM THEN IS SAFETY OF THE CIVILIAN POPULATION, BUT AGAIN, FACT REMAINS THERE WAS NO POLICY PROVEN TO DELIBERATELY KILL THE JEWS OR ANY PRISONERS, AND IF THERE WAS, U NEED TO SUPPLY THE PROOF.]

"...and try to obtain food on their own. If they are let go and die due to their inability to get food than that is their problem and they are at that point more of a victim of the allied forces cutting off food supplies into the country." [SO NOW U EFFECTIVELY ADMIT JEWS WERE ACTUALLY VICTIMS OF ALLIES.]

"One will never know [THIS IS TYPICAL STUPIDITY AND JEW-FRIENDLY BEHAVIOR OF JEW "HOOCH"--ONE KNOWS JEWS LIE, JEWS WORSHIP LIES AND LYING, ACCORDING TO THEIR TALMUD, AND ALL HISTORY, JEWS PROVEN LIARS, EVEN ADMITTED BY JEWS THEMSELVES, LIKE NORMAN FINKELSTEIN, AS IN HIS "THE HOLOCAUST INDUSTRY." AGAIN, "HOOCH" IS SIMPLY A JEW, AND THIS IS WHY HE DOESN'T ADMIT THE TRUTH THAT JEWS ARE LIARS.]

"...and can only base logical information on what little evidence there is. [IF THERE'S NO EVIDENCE, THEN IT PROVES JEWS ARE LIARS, STUPID MORON. AND THE ONLY EVIDENCE THERE IS INDICATES JEWS ARE LIARS, STUPID MORON, JEW "HOOCH."]

"To completely deny the entire thing is foolish. [OF COURSE--IF U'RE A JEW, LIKE "HOOCH."]

"That the Jews were starved, [ALL THE GERMANS WERE STARVED, IDIOT.]

"...that they were thrown in mass graves, [LIKE WHAT "MASS GRAVES," STUPID JEW LIAR.]

"...that they did have some poor living conditions, that they were chopped up in pieces. For what reasons I don't know if there is factual evidence as I believe the last of the holocaust Jews are dead." [NOTE THE IGNORANT, LYING, SCUM JEW, "HOOCH," GIVES NO EVIDENCE, NO REFERENCES, JUST CONTINUING TO REPEAT LIKE STUPID JEW LIAR HE IS.]

"Ok, now there are some basic portions of the Holocaust that logically happened." [WELL THEN WHAT, STUPID MORON, AND WHAT IS UR PROOF, WHERE ARE UR REFERENCES?--STUPID, BRAINLESS, IGNORANT SCUM.]

"It is you that has the burden of proof." [THIS ACTUALLY SHOWS THE NON-WHITE MENTALITY OF THE BRAINLESS PUKE, "HOOCH," WHO MAKES THIS SORT OF IDIOT'S STATEMENT. "HOOCH" ALLEGES THE ACCUSATION, HE MUST PROVE--OBVIOUSLY, AS ANY TRUE WHITE PERSON UNDERSTANDS--BUT THAT'S JUST IT: "HOOCH" IS NOT WHITE; RATHER HE'S A JEW, DEMONSTRATED BY HIS JEW-TYPE THOUGHT AND THINKING.]

"Did you ever think that I don't know what you like to call yourself? I can assure you that I am not part of a Jew conspiracy using tactics and measures in an attempt to pull the wool over your eyes too." [UR "ASSURANCE" IS WORTHLESS, COMING FM SOMEONE PUSHING JEW LIES, WHO SAYS, IN JEW-LIKE FASHION, SOMEONE ELSE IS REQUIRED TO DISPROVE UR IDIOTIC LIES WHICH ARE WITHOUT PROOF. U EXPECT SOMEONE TO ACCEPT UR ASSURANCE U'RE NOT LIAR?--WHEN U PLAINLY LIE? WHAT KIND OF BRAINLESS IDIOT ARE U?]

"When was the last time you saw a 6'3" Jew with the large body structure of a German? [GOOD GOD, BUT U'RE SO INCREDIBLY STUPID, I WON'T BOTHER TO TRY TO EXPLAIN IT TO U.]

"My other heritage is Norwegian and a little English. Yes, I am a mutt." [SO U ADMIT U'RE MIXED-MUTT, AND SUSPICION IS PART JEW, TOO, WHICH THEN U FURTHER INDICATE BY MEANS OF UR PUSHING JEW LIES (HOLOHOAX) IN JEW MANNER/STYLE. AND I'LL JUST LEAVE IT THERE.]

Hooch said...

"""THIS NEVER HAPPENED, AND IF IT DID, U NEED TO SUPPLY PROOF"""

Already did and you were not able to prove what other German killing of Jews that those photos and video were of.

"""PROBLEM THEN IS SAFETY OF THE CIVILIAN POPULATION"""

LOL, so the Jew monsters may have pulled some tricky scams on the German population which would have put them in jeapardy.

"""SO NOW U EFFECTIVELY ADMIT JEWS WERE ACTUALLY VICTIMS OF ALLIES."""

No, I said that they would have been. Learn to read jackass. They would have been if the Germans set them free and they still couldn't get food.

"""HOOCH" IS SIMPLY A JEW, AND THIS IS WHY HE DOESN'T ADMIT THE TRUTH THAT JEWS ARE LIARS."""

Again, that is not what I said shit for brains. I previously said that the Holocaust is full of lies just like slavery is. You said you have your bachelors degree but you have an extreme problem with reading comprehension.

"""IF THERE'S NO EVIDENCE, THEN IT PROVES JEWS ARE LIARS, STUPID MORON"""

I just said little evidence, not no evidence. You really need to brush up on your reading comprehension. It is you that has "no" evidence to the contrary.

"""ALL THE GERMANS WERE STARVED, IDIOT."""

When their food rations went down they took away food from the Jews that were locked up to fee themselves and I don't blame them for it. They should have set them free at that point though.

"...that they were thrown in mass graves, [LIKE WHAT "MASS GRAVES," STUPID JEW LIAR.]

Like this one
http://www.thefuturejew.com/image/belsen01.jpg

And that one
http://isurvived.org/Pictures_iSurvived-4/holo-corpses.GIF

And this one
http://isurvived.org/Pictures_iSurvived-4/shoah-pile6.GIF

Here they are being pushed around
http://isurvived.org/Pictures_iSurvived-4/holocaust-corpses2.GIF

And here ready for dumping
http://isurvived.org/Pictures_iSurvived-4/holocaust-remnants2.GIF

Or Here
http://isurvived.org/Pictures_iSurvived-4/dachau-corpses.GIF

Here is a nice one
http://isurvived.org/Pictures_iSurvived-4/bergen-belsen_2corpses.GIF

Here
http://isurvived.org/Pictures_iSurvived-4/holocaust-pile2.GIF

These are all photos taken when we finally crushed the Germans and set the Jews free. What they had done was at this point uncovered and there are thousands of photographs to prove it.

Are those rib cages?
http://isurvived.org/Pictures_iSurvived-4/Crematorium-Mega.GIF

What do you think these people said when they were set free?
http://isurvived.org/Pictures_iSurvived-5/Ebensee-survivors.GIF

I bet they did not say anything
http://isurvived.org/Pictures_iSurvived-4/Nordhausen-corpses.GIF

http://thetripe.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/mass-grave.jpg

http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Mauthausen/MauthausenPhotos/OldPhotos/MassGraveUSHMM.jpg

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/Rows_of_bodies_of_dead_inmates_fill_the_yard_of_Lager_Nordhausen,_a_Gestapo_concentration_camp.jpg&imgrefurl=http://forensicanthropology.blogspot.com/2008/10/priest-on-hunt-for-unmarked-mass-graves.html&usg=__bkcafmQB4Ir5wQsq547_ulEuGOA=&h=483&w=600&sz=331&hl=en&start=12&um=1&tbnid=2xJ0xKNY85b-GM:&tbnh=109&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dholocaust,%2Bmass%2Bgrave%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN

http://www.memorialdelashoah.org/upload/minisites/ukraine/images/expo1_01_l.jpg

http://www.ushmm.org/lcmedia/photo/lc/image/78/78261.jpg

apollonian said...

Inductive Evidence Is Over-Whelmingly Against "Hooch"
(Apollonian, 28 Feb 09)

Note the important element for analysis of the "Hooch" Jew problem is INDUCTIVE LOGIC which works by means of generalization, particulars taken into observation, then leading to general conclusion--induction, again.

And the conclusion is NOT disproven by any other facts or observations. Observe the inexorable process as pertaining to "Hooch." And consider extensive evidence fm this and previous WhiteReference blog, "ANSWP Commander...," 12 Dec 08. There are many, many other blogs and entries fm "Hooch" which confirms--as at the old Bill White, OverThrow.com site.

Thus thesis, derived by means of plainest, simplest induction, is "Hooch" acts and speaks (writes) in favor of Jews, pushing Jew agenda, beginning w. premise (surely a lie) that he's not himself Jew.

Note Jews often argue in this manner, telling gentiles it's in their interest to ally w. Jews, to include Jews as among "white" volk--at same time asserting they themselves are not Jews, pretending, for example, if they haven't attended synogogue, that gives them excuse to say they're not (religious) Jew.

(a) Thus "Hooch" pushes holohoax lies, giving no real evidence, but now insisting anyone not accepting false evidence MUST PROVE such false evidence is not true.

(b) "Hooch" does this (pushing Jew lies), further, in Jew fashion, for example, saying "look isn't it obvious the people in photos are Jews?--can't u tell they're Jews?" For only Jews even think in this brainlessly ignorant, idiot, tell-tale fashion, so un-white, which no real whites would attempt.

(c) "Hooch" insists what's important is source of references, rather than ref.s themselves, as he says it isn't legitimate to get ref.s fm "white supremacist" sites.

(d) And again note "Hooch's" choice of Jew terminology, using "supremacist" rather than "separatist" preferred by real whites (not Jews).

So finally, the pt. is EVERYTHING "Hooch" presents is totally Jew-oriented, Jew-serving, and Jew-friendly, which "Hooch" insists real whites (not Jews) must feel themselves obligated to accept as persuasive reasoning.

(e) Note further, "Hooch" ALWAYS leaves out facts Jews are masterminds of ZOG-Mammon empire, the controlling power behind that dominating COUNTERFEIT scam, the Federal Reserve Bank (Fed)--see RealityZone.com for expo/ref.--among other strategic facts, in his effort to speak for Jews, apologizing for Jews, making excuses, endlessly, for Jews.

(f) Thus "Hooch" concludes whites should consider Jews are white too, and that whites should rather war against other gentiles, like the negroids--not Jews.

Thus when all the INDUCTIVE EVIDENCE is considered, aforementioned items, a, b, c, d, e, and f, one sees "Hooch" consistently, over-whelmingly, and deliberately argues IN FAVOR of Jews--against real white people (non-Jews)--insisting white folks are obligated in reason to relating with Jews.

Thus the scientific, inductive pattern is clear, un-broken, and actually OVER-WHELMING, again: "Hooch" argues for and defends Jews, regardless of interests of real white (non-Jew) people, in whom "Hooch" is NOT interested, and does this advocacy for Jews all in Jew manner, using Jew methods and terminology.

When taken to task for this Jew-friendly, anti-white (non-Jew) posture, "Hooch" Jew merely calls names and attempts to attack and intimidate ad-hominem. Again, there is NO countervailing evidence for "Hooch" thesis, "Hooch" the Jew arguing for Jews--against (real--non-Jew) whites.

CONCLUSION: Thus thesis is proven: "Hooch" could only himself be a Jew as it isn't possible otherwise to argue more intensively, exclusively, or consistently for interests of Jews, as "Hooch" does.

apollonian said...

[Commentary by Apollonian, in below-copied selected text fm "Hooch" at 9:40 am, capped, bracketed. A.]

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"...
"When their food rations went down they took away food from the Jews that were locked up to fee themselves and I don't blame them for it. They should have set them free at that point though." [FACT IS U DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THIS HAPPENED, AND U GIVE NO REFERENCES TO PROVE IT. SO FAR AS IS KNOWN, GERMANS NEVER STOPPED FEEDING PRISONERS, EVEN IF RATIONS WERE REDUCED.]

"Already did and you were not able to prove what other German killing of Jews that those photos and video were of." [AGAIN, THIS ONLY PROVES THE JEW-MENTALITY AND JEW THOUGHT-PATTERNS OF "HOOCH," THE JEW. FOR "HOOCH" HAS NEVER GIVEN ANY SUBSTANTIAL PROOF OR REFERENCES WHICH WOULD SO INDICATE WHAT HE ASSERTS REGARDING HOLOHOAX. AND THERE NEVER WERE ANY DELIBERATE "GERMAN KILLINGS" AT ALL, HENCE NO "OTHERS," EITHER--TALK ABOUT LACK OF "READING COMPREHENSION."]

"LOL, so the Jew monsters may have pulled some tricky scams on the German population which would have put them in jeapardy." [WELL THIS IS AND WAS THE LEGITIMATE CONCERN, THE REASON JEWS WERE LOCKED-UP IN FIRST PLACE.]

"Again, that is not what I said shit for brains. I previously said that the Holocaust is full of lies just like slavery is. You said you have your bachelors degree but you have an extreme problem with reading comprehension." [THE PT. IS U ADMIT JEWS ARE LIARS, BUT THEN U ASSERT SOME OF WHAT THEY SAY AREN'T LIES, BUT DON'T DISTINGUISH HOW TO DISCERN THE DIFFERENCE. OBVIOUS NECESSITY IS TO PROVE VERACITY OF EVERY INDIVIDUAL ITEM OF PRETENDED "EVIDENCE"--WHICH U DON'T AND CAN'T DO.]

"Like this one
http://www.thefuturejew.com/image/belsen01.jpg" [I CK'D THIS, AND IT'S KNOWN PROVEN BULLSHIT (THOUGH I DON'T HAVE READY SOURCE), A GROSS COMPOSITE AND DOCTORED FAKE, AS I UNDERSTAND. AND THE PT. IS THERE'S NO WAY TO TELL IF THE PHOTO IS REAL, WHO THE PEOPLE ACTUALLY ARE, WHERE OR WHEN THE PHOTO WAS TAKEN. AND THIS FAKED, DOCTORED PHOTO OF URS WHICH U GET FM JEWS, IS TYPICAL OF ALL UR EVIDENCE. U JUST PUT IT OUT THERE AND PRETEND WHOEVER DISPUTES U HAS TO PROVE IT'S NOT REAL. FACT IS U HAVE TO PROVE IT'S A TRUE IMAGE OF A TRUE EVENT--WHICH U CAN'T AND NEVER DO. U'RE JUST A JEW, WHO THINKS LIKE A LYING JEW, USED TO LYING TO URSELF, AND NOW U THINK UR IDIOT LIES CAN BE PUT OVER ON REAL WHITE FOLKS.]

"These are all photos taken when we [SPEAK FOR URSELF, U JEW PIECE-OF-SHIT.]

"...finally crushed the Germans and set the Jews free. What they had done was at this point uncovered and there are thousands of photographs to prove it." [U'RE JUST A BRAINLESS, STUPID, BABBLING LIAR--AND U GIVE NO REFERENCES, AGAIN. U HAVE URSELF CONVINCED OF JEW LIES, BUT U HAVE NO REAL EVIDENCE, AND U HAVE NO WAY TO DEMONSTRATE THE VERACITY OF THE IDIOT SO-CALLED "PHOTOS" U PRESENT, IGNORANT JEW SCUM. AT THIS PT. ALL U'RE DOING IS REPEATING URSELF FOR SAME OLD STUPID CRAP WHICH I'VE ALREADY DEBUNKED. ALL INDUCTIVE EVIDENCE INDICATES "HOOCH" IS JEW, PUSHING JEW LIES, THIS IN TYPICAL JEW MANNER.]

Hooch said...

"""Note Jews often argue in this manner, telling gentiles it's in their interest to ally w. Jews, to include Jews as among "white" volk--at same time asserting they themselves are not Jews, pretending, for example, if they haven't attended synogogue, that gives them excuse to say they're not (religious) Jew."""

You've got to watch out for those tricky Jews. LOL

"""can't u tell they're Jews?" For only Jews even think in this brainlessly ignorant, idiot, tell-tale fashion, so un-white, which no real whites would attempt."""

That's funny, you say Jews aren't white but you can't tell a Jew when you see one.

"""he says it isn't legitimate to get ref.s fm "white supremacist" sites."""

Why don't you ask a Muslim to give an accurate description of you as a Christian. Or maybe it would be more accurate to ask another religion who doesn't hate and want all Christians dead.

"""using "supremacist" rather than "separatist" preferred by real whites (not Jews)"""

I don't know or care what is preferred by you fuckface. Niggers "prefer" to be called African Americans but you will never hear that come out of my mouth. Calling you a supremacist is completely insignificant.

"""apologizing for Jews, making excuses, endlessly, for Jews."""

Exactly what apologies did I have for Jews liar? You continuously lie while in the mean time talk about truth and honesty as being a Christian. You're not a Christian.


"""FACT IS U DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THIS HAPPENED, AND U GIVE NO REFERENCES TO PROVE IT. SO FAR AS IS KNOWN, GERMANS NEVER STOPPED FEEDING PRISONERS, EVEN IF RATIONS WERE REDUCED."""

Fact is you have not been able to prove with even one single shred of evidence that the photos were of some other mass emaciation of Jews.

"""OBVIOUS NECESSITY IS TO PROVE VERACITY OF EVERY INDIVIDUAL ITEM OF PRETENDED "EVIDENCE"--WHICH U DON'T AND CAN'T DO."""

As I said before, the evidence is there, it is your burden of proof to show that it is a different mass killing of Jews that the Germans did not do.

"""http://www.thefuturejew.com/image/belsen01.jpg" [I CK'D THIS, AND IT'S KNOWN PROVEN BULLSHIT (THOUGH I DON'T HAVE READY SOURCE)"""

Of course you don't have a source.

"""REPEATING URSELF FOR SAME OLD STUPID CRAP WHICH I'VE ALREADY DEBUNKED."""

You have debunked nothing and haven't even provided a single shred of evidence to the contrary.

You and anyone who believes what you do are a complete jackass if they base their beliefs on absolutely nothing.

Yes, that's right, I said it, you are a Jackass Apolo.

apollonian said...

"Hoochie" Rendered "Radio-Active" By Apollonian Induction
(Apollonian, 28 Feb 09)

"Hooch," Inductive logic works OVERWHELMINGLY against u at this pt.

And I hope all the people pulling for Bill White take due note--U ARE NOW "RADIO-ACTIVE" and "exposed"--if indeed u weren't already.

How do u "apologize" for Jews?--well, for example, when u say the 13% who don't vote for Democrats or "liberals" are not "problems," dumbass.

CONCLUSION: I gotta go right at the moment; library here is closing, but I'll be back tomorrow, God-willing. I'm happy to see I leave "Hoochie" so "radio-active." Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

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