Tuesday, November 18, 2008

Too Much Shoah Business? Former Israeli Knesset Speaker Avraham Burg Thinks Israel's Too Obsessed With The Holocaust


Have we another Norman Finkelstein or Brother Nathanael Kapner on our hands? Not hardly. But the former Speaker of the Israeli Knesset, Avraham Burg, has had enough of being "Holocausted", and believes his country is too obsessed with it.

He's also spoken out about this obsession in a Los Angeles Times column. Read the full column HERE. The most pertinent excerpt is produced below:

The constant presence of the Shoah is like a buzz in my ear. In Israel, children are always, it seems, preparing for their rite-of-passage "Auschwitz trip" to Poland. Not a day passes without a mention of the Holocaust in the only newspaper I read, Haaretz. The Shoah is like a hole in the ozone layer: unseen yet present, abstract yet powerful. It's more present in our lives than God.

It is the founding experience not just of our national consciousness but of more than that. Army generals discuss Israeli security doctrine as "Shoah-proof." Politicians use it as a central argument for their ethical manipulations.

The Shoah is so pervasive that a study conducted a few years ago in a Tel Aviv school for teachers found that more than 90% of those questioned view it as the most important experience of Jewish history. That means it is more important than the creation of the world, the exodus from Egypt, the delivering of the Torah on Mt. Sinai, the ruin of both Holy Temples, the exile, the birth of Zionism, the founding of the state or the 1967 Six-Day War.

The Shoah is woven, to varying degrees, into almost all of Israel's political arguments; over time, we have taken the Shoah from its position of sanctity and turned it into an instrument of common and even trite politics. It represents a past that is present, maintained, monitored, heard and represented. Our dead do not rest in peace. They are busy, active, always a part of our sad lives.

Of course, memory is essential to any nation's mental health. The Shoah must always have an important place in the nation's memorial mosaic. But the way things are done today -- the absolute monopoly and the dominance of the Shoah on every aspect of our lives -- transforms this holy memory into a ridiculous sacrilege and converts piercing pain into hollowness and kitsch. As time passes, the deeper we are stuck in our Auschwitz past, the more difficult it becomes to be free of it.

What does the primacy of the Shoah mean in terms of our politics and policy? For one thing, it becomes virtually impossible to find a conversation carried out with reason, patience, self-control or restraint. Take Iran as an example. With regard to Iran, as with any other security matter that has potentially existential consequences, we have no thoughts at all -- only instincts and trauma-driven impulses. Who has ever heard of alternative approaches to the Iranian issue, of strategic arguments underlying the passionate emotions, the old fears and violent rhetoric?

Few people in Israel are willing to try to perceive reality through a different set of conceptual lenses other than those of extermination and defensive isolation. Few are willing to try on the glasses of understanding and of hope for dialogue. Instead, the question is always: Is a second Shoah on the way?


Click HERE to read the rest of the column.

He hits the nail on the head. Shoah business isn't just big business - it's the only business for many Jews. This obsession with the Holocaust drove Avraham Burg from political life in Israel. To him, the Holocaust has become a God to be endlessly propitiated, rather than just another significant event in Jewish corporate existence. And it undoubtedly plays a role in Israel's "Samson Option", where if Israel ever fears that they face an all-out attack, they'll launch everything they've got - including nukes - and take down the Middle East with them.

Of course, he discusses the Holocaust obsession only in the Israeli context, making no reference to how the Holocaust has been politicized and weaponized in the United States. He also takes no interest in the fact that European countries, particularly Germany, are incarcerating people who publicly dispute the official account of the Holocaust.

But it does show that Jewish supremacism may be starting to wear thin among some prominent Jews. Burg's long-term vision of Israel is as the driving force behind a global peace process and worldwide reconciliation and as a society guided by a deep sense of responsibility to world justice. His hope is for a Jewish people that insists "never again" -- not only for Jewish victims but for anyone who suffers around the globe today. Perhaps this is why Dr. David Duke doesn't hate Jews as a people, but only takes issue with Jewish supremacism.

Avraham Burg is a businessman and author, most recently, of "The Holocaust Is Over; We Must Rise From Its Ashes". I'll look forward to snooping through this book when it hits Barnes & Noble.

2 comments:

visceral said...

you can never be too obsessed with something like the holocaust.

this guy has some interesting stuff to say on it: http://thisisby.us/index.php/content/history_has_taught_us_nothing

apollonian said...

"But it does show that Jewish supremacism may be starting to wear thin among some prominent Jews. Burg's long-term vision of Israel is as the driving force behind a global peace process and worldwide reconciliation and as a society guided by a deep sense of responsibility to world justice. His hope is for a Jewish people that insists "never again" -- not only for Jewish victims but for anyone who suffers around the globe today. Perhaps this is why Dr. David Duke doesn't hate Jews as a people, but only takes issue with Jewish supremacism." -WhiteReference.blogspot.com

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Judaism Is Dread Disease, No Less Than Typhus, Which Must And Will Be Ruthlessly Eradicated
(Apollonian, 18 Nov 08)

Well AA, u are suffering huge, horrible wishful thinking in above quote, I submit. It would thus be most interesting to know what u really understand of Judaism--which Judaism is enslavement and murder of gentile race, this in accord w. Talmudic ritualistic towards same end (ck RevisionistHistory.org, TruthTellers.org, and Come-and-hear.com for best Talmudic expo).

And I sure don't see where u get the second sentence of above-quoted regarding "long-term vision," aside fm same wishful thinking. Ditto for "his [Burg's] hope"--just more child's wishful thinking.

AA, only thing happening w. holohoax (see Zundelsite.org, Codoh.com, and Ihr.org for expo/ref.) is it's reached natural pt. of "diminishing returns," this in the natural CYCLE of things, even becoming counter-productive for its effect upon gentile patience, and Jews realize they must adjust their operational strategic prosecution--naturally. Presently, Jews are embarked upon "limited hangout" whence they contrive to pretend to giving-up "zionists."

Thus Walt-Mearsheimer Judeo-conspirators (see TheNewAmerican.com for expo/ref. on CFR-Bilderberg conspiracy) pt. "finger" at "The Israel Lobby," and Ron Paul (CampaignForLiberty.com), that sniveling, cowardly scum, is willing to denounce "neo-cons."

Then AA, u bring up Dave Duke (DavidDuke.com), who is another case of self-delusion, I fear, though it's hard not to sympathize with the dear man who has suffered and accomplished so much. I think Duke did well in latest EURO conference travail, having provoked the Jew enemy most brilliantly, getting Jew to expose himself quite revealingly, indeed.

So then what exactly does Christian soldier wish for as he works most purposefully? Thus I submit one must be practical. First thing we need is a reversal to present CYCLIC "Decline of the West," by Oswald Spengler.

More specifically then, such reversal/resugence will surely entail the repudiation of the present reigning "good-evil" Pelagianism, Pharisaism, and hereticalism, this in favor of more strict HONESTY in accord with TRUTH and objectivity. Jesus was NOT a "Jew" as falsely alleged by "Sadducean" (of modern-day) leaders of "Judeo-Christian" (JC--see Whtt.org and TruthTellers.org for expo/ref.) hereticalists and fools.

Hence we need serious, genuine JEW-EXPULSION in general for long-term goal. Christians have to get SERIOUS--which means they've got to get (a) HONEST, dropping this idiot "good-evil" balderdash, (b) much more rationalistic, and (c) much more righteously hateful of Jews and their gentile accomplices.

Purpose of Christianity is HATRED, and anyone who denies it must be crushed and smashed as deserved.

And Norman Finkelstein is a filthy, scummy, dirty Jew, a Jew's Jew--regardless of fact he condemns Israeli Zionist excess--just more "limited hangout."

What I fear, AA, about otherwise good people like urself, is u're too willing to fool urself for all ur wishful thinking. There's no "good" Jew--anymore than there's "good" psychopath--and u've got to face this fact which isn't ever going away.

I rather respect people like Nat Kapner (RealJewNews.com)--he's far better, more honest than Finkelstein, and these two shouldn't be equated as they're totally different. Only good Jew is a dead one, and like Kapner, fully human being must absolutely, TOTALLY repudiate Judaism--and never identify as such--except with greatest reluctance for minimal admission upon origins.

AA, ur temporizing is dangerous and scary. As old as u are, u should know better than to indulge in this childish wishful thinking, u express herein, this blog, and in above quote. Jews will be utterly expelled; Judaism will be eradicated--no less than any disease, like Typhus. Jews will be arrested, confiscated, interned, separated by sex, and watched carefully as they die out. There can be no compromise for dutiful Christian soldiers.

I hereby assign unto u penance of seventeen Hail Marys, and twelve Our Fathers--and see that u sin no more. U'll do a good stint in purgatory if u're not careful.

CONCLUSION: And don't worry--Judaism, at least in form of narcissism, hubris, and subjectivism, will re-arise in the natural CYCLE of history quite soon enough as people tire of the reborn, resurgent Christianity--no less than they did in reaction to the first rising accomplished by St. Constantine the Great, bless his exalted anti-semitic soul. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian