Sunday, October 19, 2008

Feds Already Setting The Stage To Bury ANSWP Commander Bill White, Who Was Denied Bail In First Hearing On October 19th


ANSWP Commander and Overthrow editor Bill White had his first court hearing on October 19th, 2008, and, as expected, was denied bail. He will continue to be held in Roanoke City Jail for now. However, an additional development took place, which has a potentially chilling impact.

It looks like the Feds are already setting the stage to possibly pile more charges on White and try to bury him. Full story from the Roanoke Times. Discussion continuing on the Vanguard News Network Forum, on Stormfront (website shutdown HERE, arrest HERE), and now on the ZogsNightmare Forum.

Click HERE to view the 24-page complaint in PDF format.

As previously posted, Bill White was arrested on Friday October 17th on charges of threatening a juror in the case of Matthew Hale, who was convicted in Chicago in 2004 of soliciting the murder of a Federal judge. However, what convinced U.S. Magistrate Judge Michael Urbanski to continue denying bail to White is an alleged passage White posted in May to his primary website Overthrow.com (which is still off-line). White allegedly wrote at the time that he had developed an intricate plot to murder 15 or 20 people, including some of Roanoke’s “Negro nuisances and their annoying counterparts at The Roanoke Times”.

However, Judge Urbanski has taken this statement completely out of context, and has also refused to consider Bill White's state of mind at this time. During May, he was experiencing a low point in his life due to the pressures of some domestic problems and repeated troubles with his tenants. The media has also cherry-picked the statement out of context as well. To understand the context, one must read the ENTIRE post. And although Overthrow.com and the associated blog is offline, the cache is still available. Here is the ENTIRE post from May 22nd, 2008, entitled "Feeling Better"

Feeling Better
Thursday, May 22nd, 2008
For the past few months I have been increasingly unwell.

In January, my wife became extremely ill with complications from her pregnancy. She developed pre-eclampsia, which turned into liver failure (HELLP Syndrome) and something like a stroke (eclampsia). Our daughter was delivered eleven weeks early at two pounds, nine ounces.

Sometime around the time the doctors informed me my wife and daughter were likely to die, and this is the first time in months I’ve even been able to write or say something like that without immediately breaking down into tears, something went wrong with me. I really can’t explain what it was, but today is the first day I’ve even vaguely begun to feel like I’m myself again.

I’m not naturally a very depressed person or someone given to extreme emotions. I can be confrontational and many people find me intimidating, but I am not someone naturally prone to violence or extreme anger or hatred. I don’t like blacks and Jews, but I generally don’t have much emotion associated with it. Its that lack of emotional content in my views that makes me very difficult to dissuade — I’m one of those people for whom racism is a natural and healthy state — one that is the result of feeling comfortable, not uncomfortable. Plus, in my day to day work, people come at me with knives or come at me swinging a two by four and I take it in stride. I see an angry mob, go into their midst, duke it out, and don’t even break a sweat. I strangle a Negro crack dealer, take a few kicks to the head, and the next day I’m enjoying vacation. Things just roll off of me, and I really don’t do well in very low-stress environments. While I don’t bet lots of money, even on vacation I do things like drink lots of coffee and gamble at high stress games like black jack, where I count cards (and the counting just adds to the mental focus and stress level in the game). For fun I do logic puzzles and Sudoku, and read difficult works of philosophy. I thrive in intense and challenging environments.

So, you would think that when my daughter and wife survived the experience and ended up healthy, I would have recovered from this dead feeling, and things would have returned to normal, but they didn’t. For the past few months, my daughter has really been the only thing that makes me smile, and even then, not really as much as she should. Things have become progressively worse, day by day, and I have woke up more and more often feeling the need to kill, kill, kill, and have tried to get through my day while ignoring the need to destroy the wicked. Its not been easy.

The other week, my wife asked me if I had become ”depressed” since the baby was born. I told her depressed people feel something. Several friends have described me as “morose”. One joked the other day that they were worried I was about to “go Joseph Paul Franklin”. They’ve been close.

Since my wife was hospitalized until today my feelings have ranged from completely dead to occassional outbursts of literally murderous anger. I’ve been going through my life doing the things I need to do, but I haven’t been doing them the way I used to do them — they’ve all been half hearted and uncommitted — things I’ve been doing for form, not substance. Over the past few months, it has become impossible to live my life day to day. I’ve just been ignoring things; I haven’t even opened much of my mail for months; it is piled up in bins in my living room. My taxes aren’t done; I’ve put them aside. I have not been aggressively renting apartments; I’ve got more vacancies than I’ve almost ever allowed myself to carry. I’ve just been ignoring things I don’t like, avoiding things I don’t want to see … I’ve become very dependent on the people who do the work for me, sometimes too dependent. My company has suffered substantially from this – not unrecoverably, though I’ve now decided I need to not recover the rental portion of it and let it go in favor of construction, but substantially. I’m like that guy in Office Space who woke up one morning and just decided he didn’t want to go to work or pay any bills, but without the comfortable hypnosis.

Combined with this dead feeling I realized the other day that I have, almost without realizing it, though that may seem a bit strange, developed a very intricate plot for the murder of about a score of Roanoke City’s Negro nuisances and their annoying counterparts at the Roanoke Times. I know everything about these assholes – where they live, who they live with, what they look like, where they go, when they go there. I estimate I could probably, in the course of a few hours, kill fifteen out of the twenty easy if I picked the right day and time, and still lived long enough to travel the country and begin picking off the ridiculous “independent journalists” that staff the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Intelligence Report. I have a list of those as well. What’s amazing is that I’ve been doing this almost without paying attention to it, until I started thinking about things the other day.

The other day I read something, as it happened, about post traumatic stress disorder. It was completely random, but something struck me when it mentioned dissociation. I was a psych major with biological and clinical foci at University of Maryland; I studied stuff like this. I realized that dissociate was an extremely good term for what I was doing. The other day I drew a gun and was ready to kill one of my tenants, based mostly on behavior from the tenant that while violent and disruptive, would usually have rolled off my back. As I’ve thought about things the past few days, I’ve realized that I’ve been avoiding confrontations solely to avoid killing people. As my list of people to kill has grown, it has become rather paralyzing.

Somewhat scary stuff, I guess. Not normal or healthy.

Today, I had something like a heart attack combined with an almost complete breakdown. I say something like a heart attack because I’m not trying to be Hal Turner. I had a sharp pain in the left hand side of my chest, became light headed, and had to sink to the ground to keep from falling. I had:

* Chest discomfort with lightheadedness, fainting, sweating, nausea or shortness of breath.

* Anxiety, nervousness and/or cold, sweaty skin.

* Increased or irregular heart rate.

* Feeling of impending doom.

I did not have:

* Uncomfortable pressure, fullness, squeezing or pain in the center of the chest lasting more than a few minutes.

* Pain spreading to the shoulders, neck or arms. The pain may be mild to intense. It may feel like pressure, tightness, burning, or heavy weight. It may be located in the chest, upper abdomen, neck, jaw, or inside the arms or shoulders.

* Paleness or pallor.

So I don’t know what that is, but it wasn’t pleasant. I’ve done some research, and it sounds like a whole bunch of other things that aren’t heart attacks, but also aren’t good, but are stress related.

In any case, after a brief near-faint I recovered and decided to pack up and leave work early. On the way home, I had some sort of breakdown and had to pull my car over into a parking lot for about twenty minutes. I just couldn’t pull anything together. I couldn’t even speak. It was not a normal experience for me.

I’ve never really had problems like this before and don’t know what to make of them. In any case, it was unusual. I just felt like I collapsed. The whole thing is somewhat embarassing, frankly, and probably a little pathetic, too — maybe something I should keep off a blog, though I won’t. But regardless, since then, I’ve felt a whole lot better. Things feel a whole lot clearer and I don’t feel the detachment from things that has been hanging over me for months. I suddenly feel happy in the normal way I feel happy. I am no longer angry about all the people who spend their time screwing me over in small ways (and most of life and business, to me, is a series of small people trying to screw you over in small ways). I can talk about my wife’s hospitalization without serious problems, which is something I couldn’t even do this morning. I feel much more alive than I have recently. It is good.

I still have a bunch of practical issues that need to be taken care of. I think I am going to force a closure of White Homes and Land’s rental business, take some time off, maybe take a vacation, keep the construction business, and get back to work on what I enjoy — remodeling houses — instead of what I hate — babysitting “human beings” that are really little more than animals. A friend of mine pointed out the other day that you never meet an old property manager that loves life, and several friends of mine have pointed out that the day to day work of cleaning up houses is just demeaning for someone of my intelligence to be doing. I don’t have that kind of class arrogance — I like going into a house that is totally destroyed and rebuilding it. I just don’t like rebuilding the same house every two months on an emergency schedule because the latest bunch of white trash has pissed on the carpets — again. In fact, I had a friend call and say he’d never thought about how dried urine would have white crystals in it until he read my blog …

Regardless, the rental business is over. Someone better than me will have to take over the properties, and I am going to file paperwork to force a sale sometime in the near future. We could continue operating, but I choose not to. The drain and strain on me is just no longer worth it, and if I’m going to feel better and take a vacation, its a lot easier to take a vacation from construction than from tenants.


As you can see, within the context of the entire post, Bill White was NOT actually planning to kill 15-20 Negroes. He was just experiencing a bunch of frustrations and pouring them out on the keyboard to relieve pressure. Yet the Feds are trying to transform what was merely a therapeutic blog post into a possible conspiracy. This is how the Feds do business - they take personal issues like this and weave fanciful hoary tales of impending doom. Then they start stacking the charges like pancakes, browbeating and bullying their victims into pleading to a lesser charge in order to avoid a gazillion years in a strict-regime Zogpen like Matt Hale got.

Bill White has never gone out and killed Negroes. As a matter of fact, Bill White does not even customarily start fights in public. He won't back down if it's forced upon him, but he doesn't go out and start crap.

So why did Judge Urbanski look upon this May posting as different? Because Urbanski claims that White was "talking about doing something himself”. But defense attorney William Cleaveland was on top of the situation, and immediately reminded the judge that White was depressed at the time of that post as he dealt with the illness of his wife and newborn daughter. Nevertheless, Assistant U.S. Attorney Tom Bondurant insisted that White’s comments represented “a danger to the community, no matter how you look at it.”

At the end of the unusual Sunday afternoon hearing in U.S. District Court in Roanoke, Urbanski decided to keep White locked up until Wednesday October 22nd, when he will consider a report on White's background and prior criminal history before making a final decision on bond.

And what about the disposition of the American National Socialist Workers Party (ANSWP) during this period? While there's no official second-in-command in the ANSWP, Georgia State Leader Christopher Drake has stepped forward to pick up the leadership slack. In this thread on the Vanguard News Network Forum, Drake stated that the ANSWP will continue business as usual, and will proceed with the distribution of the current issue of National Socialist magazine. This is the controversial issue with the picture of Barack Obama through the scope hairs on the cover. Of course, the Overthrow websites will not be back online for the foreseeable future, until White's status is at least clarified.

16 comments:

apollonian said...

[Excellent posting and analysis, AA. I myself previously posted below on Bill White subject at HalTurnerShow.blogspot.com. A.]



Christians Must Heed Urgency Of Situation Most Broadly Understood
(Apollonian, 19 Oct 08)

Hal, everything u say (see HalTurnerShow.blogspot.com, "Payback...," 18 Oct 08) is understandable, but note B. White is still relatively young, 31, and deserves Christian consideration for the damage we can--and must--still inflict upon ZOG-Mammon which is presently plotting and acting so disastrously against the people, even as we speak.

Bill White (OverThrow.com/blog) offered me a secure blog (which I doubt was really that secure), and then sent a false password which wouldn't work. Then when I reported I couldn't use the blog, the moron called me a "retard." Maybe White thought he was being funny--I don't really know. But it didn't surprise me then when I found Feds took down his site--this is something that WOULD or MIGHT well happen to such a "joker."

Life sucks, and this is not a game we're playing with ZOG-Mammon which brutally murdered 3,000 of our fellow citizens on 9-11, and has now mass-murdered over a million poor Iraqis who never did USA any harm. We're next on their (ZOG-Mammon) list, comrades, never doubt or forget.

Here's one thing even Hal Turner has to note: Bill White definitively "OUTED" Curt Maynard who said White was not a "real" white nationalist, and that Hal Turner was "informer." Hal got justifiably mad at Maynard, but White acted in meaningful, substantial way--gosh, but I wish his site was still up for all the neat info it had on Maynard, that utterly psychotic moron.

Hal, u gotta figure B. White calling u "fraud" was affected inasmuch as everyone in the know understood White was merely nit-picking u on the margins, surely rather more out of envy than anything else, for ur initiative and activity, regarding Kalamazoo. One of White's comrades at the time sent me a note describing just how he told White to his face he was full of it.

One other un-deniable virtue for this whole, entire, miserable episode (B. White's arrest) is IT DRAMATIZES FEDS ARE SORE AT WHITE FOR exposing Feds empanaling A JEW QUEER on the Matt Hale case--this is called "rigging," and is basis for appeal at least.

Finally, I only hope Bill White is thinking more seriously how he should broaden his popular base by means of CHRISTIAN appeal. For we patriots must emulate St. Constantine the Great for epochal, definitive Jew-expulsion to save our lives, people, and nation.

A faction, now disaffected, I understand, of ANSWP showed Bill White how this (Christian-oriented appeal) could be done most effectively at Tulsa, Ok, last 16 Apr 07, but White strangely, with very little comment, passed it all up, evidently imagining he has time to "fiddle" as "Rome burns."

Comrades, Christian anti-semitism (anti-Talmud) is precisely that basic message people so urgently need, and it isn't "rocket-science," rather explicit at Gosp. MARK 7:1-13. Christ was/is NOT a "Jew," by any means or understanding--ON THE CONTRARY--and people need most urgently to find this info out.

Jews are simply paying "Judeo-Christians" (JCs--see Whtt.org and TruthTellers.org for expo/ref.) to being ignorant and suicidally stupid, quite literally--we patriots can do quite a bit to turning these poor suckers and dupes to most effective anti-semitic account, especially as the fools find out how miserably they've been suckered.

I pray Bill White comes out of this episode more Christian-sympathetic. B. White and Hal Turner are the very finest sort of talent our people presently have, and we need to get these fellows co-operating more--this is necessary ticket to not merely victory, but first just basic survival.

CONCLUSION: Judeo-conspirators (see TheNewAmerican.com for expo/ref. on CFR-Bilderberg conspiracy) are trying, even as we speak, nothing less than to crash our basic economy and national sovereignty. People must most urgently become hip to necessity of Jew-expulsion. There's eminent reason Jews hate and fear Christianity, and it's simple, easy thing for us to remind these good folks. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

John said...

Interesting choice of judges, this Michael Urbanski if I'm not mistaken is the one who dealt with the phony contempt charge re: destroying evidence in the form of e-mails or something - he zipped them and their idiot court expert(who again if I'm not mistaken also turned out to be a jew as well, which he lied about in court)couldn't find them. There was no merit and Urbanski covered Troutman Sanders' ass by staying the motion indefinitely. Prior to the court date Bill had called Urbanksi a corrupt, fucking idiot -which was probably true but he later apologized for anyways.

Another note, having read the 24 page pdf, it says that it's a complaint and not an indictment, would someone with more legal knowledge care to comment on that?

Anchorage Activist said...

John - that was just a bit of sloppiness on my part. The document clearly says "Complaint", so I have corrected my post to reflect it. Guess I'm getting a more in-depth legal knowledge than I anticipated.

Thanks for bringing this dichotomy to my attention. :-)

John said...

I mentioned it because I'm curious to know if holding someone without bail is at all common for a complaint as opposed to an actual indictment, and what the difference between the two is in general..

Michael Burks said...

Like Drake, I issued a statement via recording on the 18th. Much like Chris Drake stated, the ANSWP should keep carrying out day to day actions, which of our course, legal. Being the Midwest Regional Leader, most of my state leaders are in full agreement. I am sure those under Drake also agree. I know that are Northwest Units also feel the same. I plan on speaking to Bill's wife soon. We need to be helping her out as white brothers and sisters. Without Bill, she's a single mother. Funds should be raised and given to her and Bill's daughter. This raid and arrest is phony and a total lie. I still believe that Bill White will defeat this bogus charge when it's all said and done.

Jim Ramm said...

Jim Ramm's comments comcerning white:

Egotistical, narcissic Bill White once thought of himself as a god. A god with an insatiable need for recognition and acceptance that often spirals out of control and then he crashes and burns...

Bill is quite mad and whatever bit of sanity he had left will soon be completely gone.

White has a history of committed the most disgusting acts of dishonor. From non-stop lying to proclaiming himself god to stabbing every group he ever joined in the back, Bill White is trash and those who follow him are trash.

His voracious appetite for attention is widely known and he and his followers have reached pariah status in the White Nationalist movement. The ANSWPP are considered by literally every other WN organization to be the bottom of the barrel, the worst of the white race.

You know you have real problems when you start believing your own lies.

It would have been simply wonderful if hardcore members in our movement handled the Bill White problem in house. Bill was certainly easy to find, but nobody stepped up to the plate to do what was needed. This must be the first time the FEDS did an arrest within the movement, that actually benefits the movement.

ZOG is no friend to the white race. Our zionist Occupied Government has committed horrific crimes against our blood. ZOG has orchestrated the genocidal destruction of white Americans and their replacement with a brown-skinned people that are less intelligent and much easier to control. The crimes the US government has perpetrated against our race would take hundreds of thousands of pages to fully document. The American government is severely corrupt, ran by crooks and for the benefit of crooks.

But ZOG did the racialist movement a great service by putting Bill White out of our misery.

Thank you FBI!

The time is coming, when we should forget about the Asswipes and Bill White. As long as they don't have Bill running the group it will die. Bill has no 2nd in command, Drake and Burks will probably end up in charge but they are both men of strictly limited capabilities.

Right now however, isn't the time to forget about these freaks, since he trial hasn't even started! Bill White is a slippery snake and could somehow manage to squeeze out of this one. Hopefully all those shitskin Nigbama supporters in the Chicago jury will convict Bill whether he is guilty or not. Hopefully nigger racism, will put Bill White away for decades. That's one thing the white man can always rely on being constant: shitskin racism!

Anonymous said...

Bill White's Murder plot:
“Combined with this dead feeling I realized the other day that I have, almost without realizing it, though that may seem a bit strange, developed a very intricate plot for the murder of about a score of Roanoke City’s Negro nuisances and their annoying counterparts at the Roanoke Times. I know everything about these assholes – where they live, who they live with, what they look like, where they go, when they go there. I estimate I could probably, in the course of a few hours, kill fifteen out of the twenty easy if I picked the right day and time, and still lived long enough to travel the country and begin picking off the ridiculous “independent journalists” that staff the Southern poverty lie center’s Intelligence Report. I have a list of those as well. What’s amazing is that I’ve been doing this almost without paying attention to it, until I started thinking about things the other day.

“The other day I read something, as it happened, about post traumatic stress disorder. It was completely random, but something struck me when it mentioned dissociation. I was a psych major with biological and clinical foci at University of Maryland; I studied stuff like this. I realized that dissociate was an extremely good term for what I was doing. The other day I drew a gun and was ready to kill one of my tenants, based mostly on behavior from the tenant that while violent and disruptive, would usually have rolled off my back. As I’ve thought about things the past few days, I’ve realized that I’ve been avoiding confrontations solely to avoid killing people. As my list of people to kill has grown, it has become rather paralyzing.”

-Bill White

ARE THESE THE WORDS OF A SANE MAN???

Anonymous said...

I got news for you guys:

DEATH THREATS MADE WHETHER ONE IS MENTALLY ILL OR COMPLETELY SANE ARE STILL ILLEGAL!

Until the case starts we won't know what other goodies they have on Bildo.

James said...

And Burks your "Northwest units" consists of two guys, Dan Jones who is being investigated by the FBI and will probably face criminal charges and Gary Nemeth.

Anchorage Activist said...

Appreciate all the comments, both pro and anti. This illustrates that very few people are neutral about Bill White.

The primary issue here is the potential impact upon our free speech. If Bill White can be taken down simply by virtue of what he posted on the Web, the postings which I've shown to be blown out of proportion by a predatory Federal leviathon, all of us become even more vulnerable. VNN Forum could be brought down. ZogsNightmare could be brought down. And even this blog could be brought down.

Regardless of one's opinion about Bill White, this is the real issue I see lurking in the background.

Klanman said...

I see your point but would like to remind you that Bill always tried to walk the fine line between free speech and criminal speech, that is when he wasn't libeling other White Nationalists.

I think we will be safe as long as we avoid publicizing death threats directed toward public officials running for president.

apollonian said...

Can Always Tell Jews By The Smell
(Apollonian, 20 Oct 08)

"[K]lanman" u're obviously just a stupid Jew, u brainless, hook-nosed filth.

Hint: there is no such thing as "criminal speech"--and no white people think in such terms, brainless, idiotic kike--death to u, puke. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

apollonian said...

Anonymous said...
Bill White's Murder plot:
....
-Bill White
ARE THESE THE WORDS OF A SANE MAN???
6:15 AM

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Only "Good" One Is Dead One
(Apollonian, 20 Oct 08)

Yes, "anon," u cowardly, stupid, hook-nosed Jew queer, I'd say ur quoted words fm Bill White are eminently sane--and extremely patriotic too.

Bill White deserves tremendous credit. Only good Jew is a dead one, obviously--u have to ask? Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

apollonian said...

Anonymous said...
"I got news for you guys:
"DEATH THREATS MADE WHETHER ONE IS MENTALLY ILL OR COMPLETELY SANE ARE STILL ILLEGAL!
"Until the case starts we won't know what other goodies they have on Bildo." 6:29 AM

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SPLC Employing Schizoids To Harass Patriots
(Apollonian, 20 Oct 08)

"Anon," u're excellent example why we patriots are encouraged as our opponents like u amount to the very stupidest schizophrenic Jew queers.

Bill White isn't accused of "death threats," dumbass; neither are u capable of demonstrating any. U're just a filthy Jew-queer lickspittle paid to harass people, u disgusting little in-bred cretin. Death to u. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian

Anonymous said...

Apollian or Mike Burks you are such a freak. Instead of debating these issues you resort to name calling: "Your a jew!"

Calling people jews that you don't know won't get madman Bill White out of the serious legal shit he is in.

Don't tell us this shit about what you think Bill is accused of or not. More charges will follow after the case begins, you don't know all the cards the Feds are holding.

Bill is going down and good riddance to old garbage...

apollonian said...

"Don't tell us this shit about what you think Bill is accused of or not. More charges will follow after the case begins, you don't know all the cards the Feds are holding."

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ZOG: Heroic Protector, Leader Of Jews, Queers, And Schizoids
(Apollonian, 22 Oct 08)

I love it--observe, above this schizoid queer psycho fm SPLC tells everyone else not to talk as WE don't know anything. But the little puke babbles on as if HE does know.

CONCLUSION: These are kind of Jews and Jew-friendly mentalities ZOG gov. thinks they're going to win with. Honest elections and death to the Fed. Apollonian